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The Chief
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Damn! Look AT that.
Nice try, Bob.
At a community college in Roseburg, Ore., last week, nine people were killed: Lucero Alcaraz, 19; Treven Taylor Anspach, 20; Rebecka Ann Carnes, 18; Quinn Glen Cooper, 18; Kim Saltmarsh Dietz, 59; Lucas Eibel, 18; Jason Dale Johnson, 33; Lawrence Levine, 67; Sarena Dawn Moore, 44.
April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. : Cassie Bernall, 17; Steven Curnow, 14; Corey DePooter, 17; Kelly Fleming, 16; Matthew Kechter, 16; Daniel Mauser, 15; Daniel Rohrbough, 15; William “Dave” Sanders, 47; Rachel Scott, 17; Isaiah Shoels, 18; John Tomlin, 16; Lauren Townsend, 18; Kyle Velasquez, 16.
Dec. 26, 2000, at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield, Mass. : Jennifer Bragg Capobianco, 29; Janice Hagerty, 46; Louis “Sandy” Javelle, 58; Rose Manfredi, 48; Paul Marceau, 36; Cheryl Troy, 50; Craig Wood, 29.
March 21, 2005, at Red Lake High School on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Red Lake, Minn. : Derrick Brun, 28; Dewayne Lewis, 15; Chase Lussier, 15; Daryl Lussier, 58; Neva Rogers, 62; Chanelle Rosebear, 15; Michelle Sigana, 32; Thurlene Stillday, 15; Alicia White, 15.
Oct. 2, 2006, at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Pa. : Naomi Ebersol, 7; Marian Stoltzfus Fisher, 13; Lena Zook Miller, 7 ; Mary Liz Miller, 8 ; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12.
April 16, 2007, at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va. : Ross Abdallah Alameddine, 20; Christopher James “Jamie” Bishop, 35; Brian Bluhm, 25; Ryan Clark, 22; Austin Cloyd, 18; Jocelyne Couture-Nowak, 49; Daniel Perez Cueva, 21; Kevin Granata, 46; Matthew G. Gwaltney, 24; Caitlin Hammaren, 19; Jeremy Herbstritt, 27; Rachael Elizabeth Hill, 18; Emily Hilscher, 19; Jarrett Lane, 22; Matthew J. La Porte, 20; Henry Lee, 20; Liviu Librescu, 76; G.V. Loganathan, 51; Partahi Lumbantoruan, 34; Lauren McCain, 20; Daniel O’Neil, 22; Juan Ramon Ortiz, 26; Minal Panchal, 26; Erin Peterson, 18; Michael Pohle, 23; Julia Pryde, 23; Mary Read, 19; Reema Samaha, 18; Waleed Shaalan, 32; Leslie Sherman, 20; Maxine Turner, 22; Nicole R. White, 20.
Dec. 5, 2007, at the Westroads Mall in Omaha : Beverly Flynn, 47; Janet Jorgensen, 66; Gary Joy, 56; John McDonald, 65; Gary Scharf, 48; Angie Schuster, 36; Dianne Trent, 53; Maggie Webb, 24.
April 3, 2009, American Civic Association immigration services center in Binghamton, N.Y. : Parveen Nln Ali, 26; Almir O. Alves, 43; Marc Henry Bernard, 44; Maria Sonia Bernard, 46; Hai Hong Zhong, 54; Hong Xiu Mao, 35; Jiang Ling, 22; Layla Khalil, 57; Roberta King, 72; Lan Ho, 39; Li Guo, 47;Dolores Yigal, 53; Maria Zobniw, 60.
Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood, near Killeen, Tex. : Michael Grant Cahill, 62; Libardo Eduardo Caraveo, 52; Justin Michael DeCrow, 32; John P. Gaffaney, 56; Frederick Greene, 29; Jason Dean Hunt, 22; Amy S. Krueger, 29; Aaron Thomas Nemelka, 19; Michael S. Pearson, 22; Russell Seager, 51; Francheska Velez, 21; Juanita L. Warman, 55; Kham See Xiong, 23.
Jan. 8, 2011, in the parking lot of a grocery store in Tucson : Christina Taylor Green, 9; Dorothy Morris, 76; John M. Roll, 63; Phyllis Schneck, 79; Dorwan Stoddard, 76; Gabriel Zimmerman, 30.
Feb. 27, 2012, at Chardon High School in Chardon, Ohio : Demetrius Hewlin, 16; Russell King, Jr., 17; Daniel Parmertor, 16.
April 2, 2012, at Oikos University in Oakland, Calif. : Tshering Rinzing Bhutia, 38; Doris Chibuko, 40; Sonam Choedon, 33; Grace Eunhea Kim, 23; Katleen Ping, 24; Judith O. Seymour, 53; Lydia Sim, 21.
July 20, 2012, at the Century Aurora 16 movie complex in Aurora, Colo. : Jonathan Blunk, 26: A.J. Boik, 18; Jesse Childress, 29; Gordon W. Cowden, 51; Jessica Ghawi, 24; John Thomas Larimer, 27; Matthew McQuinn, 27; Micayla Medek, 23; Veronica Moser-Sullivan, 6; Alex Matthew Sullivan, 27; Alexander Teves, 24; Rebecca Ann Wingo, 3.
Aug. 5, 2012, at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, Wis. : Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65; Suveg Singh Khattra, 84; Paramjit Kaur, 41; Prakash Singh, 39; Ranjit Singh, 49; Sita Singh, 41.
Dec. 14, 2012, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. : Charlotte Bacon, 6; Daniel Barden, 7; Rachel D’Avino, 29; Olivia Engel, 6; Josephine Gay, 7; Dylan Hockley, 6; Dawn Hocksprung, 47; Madeleine F. Hsu, 6; Catherine V. Hubbard, 6; Chase Kowalski, 7; Jesse Lewis, 6; Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 6; James Mattioli, 6; Grace McDonnell, 7; Anne Marie Murphy, 52; Emilie Parker, 6; Jack Pinto, 6; Noah Pozner, 6; Caroline Previdi, 6; Jessica Rekos, 6; Avielle Richman, 6; Lauren Russeau, 30; Mary Sherlach, 56; Victoria Soto, 27; Benjamin Wheeler, 6; Allison N. Wyatt, 6.
Sept. 16, 2013, at the Washington Navy Yard in the District : Michael Arnold, 59; Martin Bodrog, 54; Arthur Daniels, 51; Sylvia Frasier, 53; Kathy Gaarde, 62; John Roger Johnson, 73; Mary Frances DeLorenzo Knight, 51; Frank Kohler, 51; Vishnu Bhalchandra Pandit, 61; Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46; Gerald Read, 58; Richard Michael Ridgell, 52.
April 2, 2014, at Fort Hood near Killeen, Tex. : Daniel M. Ferguson, 39; Carlos A. Lazaney-Rodriguez, 38; Timothy Wayne Owens, 37.
April 13, 2014, at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and the Village Shalom Retirement Center, both in Overland Park, Kan. : William Lewis Corporon, 69; Terri LaManno, 53; Reat Griffin Underwood, 14.
June 17, 2015, at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. : Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, 45; DePayne V. Middleton Doctor, 49; Cynthia Graham Hurd, 54; Susie Jackson, 87; Ethel Lee Lance, 70; Clementa C. Pinckney, 41; Tywanza Sanders, 26; Daniel Simmons, 74; Myra Thompson, 59.
July 16, 2015, at an armed services recruiting center and a Navy reserve center in Chattanooga, Tenn. : Carson A. Holmquist, 25; Randall Smith, 26; Thomas J. Sullivan, 40; Squire K. “Skip” Wells, 21; David A. Wyatt, 35 .
All the BOLDED (14) "MASS/SCHOOL SHOOTING" events were under.... OBAMA's WATCH and in just the past SIX years!!
And he comes on national TV to let us all know that he is "Outraged".
One (underlined) under CLINTON's (1) Watch!!!
That's 15 outta 20 in the past 16 years have been under the watchful eye of Dem POTUS's.
Just like all them Violent INNER CITY Gun related shootings. DEM Mayors.
Noooooooooooooo, can't be.
WTF is up with that??
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MY Bad.... It's all Reagan and Bush's fault. All carried over from their tenure. Gotcha.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nothing. It's the do-nothing Republican Congress's watch. They're owned by the gun manufacturers and gun fanatics like you.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Bob.
Nuke this POS.
Please.
And don't bring another one back.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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F*#k you, Jim.
And I mean that sincerely.
Love, apogee.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 4, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
Gee, I wonder why there haven't been any Mass Shootings there with everybody packing openly and all.
.... perhaps because it's largest ethnic group is French or French-Canadian?
Racist!
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Valedictorian?
Shee-it....I was lucky to walk out of there with a diploma.
Nah, my only aspiration around valedictorians was directed at the cutie-pie at my school. And it had nothing to do with academics.
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The Chief
climber
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Perhaps you could publish the names of the other 180,000 poor souls who were murdered in the USA in the last 15 years. I think their deaths, though perhaps experienced at times singularly and alone merit as much acknowledgement.
As well as the over 1.3 or so MILLION names of those that have died as direct result of the totally legal alcohol consumption during the same period of time.
Now we all know what happened when the Guberment tried to "control" that.. don't we?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Now we all know what happened when the Guberment tried to "control" that.. don't we?
Oh, so we know who got stopped at a sobriety checkpoint, don't we?
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Depends on whose hands we're talking about. And the type of rubber gloves- everyone knows organic, grass-fed rubber plants make for the most tantric experience.
I learned that from a book I bought at Whole Foods. It had Sting on the cover.
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The Chief
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Oh, so we know who got stopped at a sobriety checkpoint, don't we?
"WE" do... Who?
Well, the 1.3 or so MILLION that have died the past 15 years, didn't. Wonderful.
Oh Boy Ken. Your coming around...... slowly but surely.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Wow... I step out and do some shooting and climbing(not all at once), and find this fine new mess.
I must admit that the Chief does seem to own this thread too. Facts vs. name calling and the inevitable penis-analogies when they have completely run out of names.
Hang in there good man!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Good try Bob. Climbing threads die on their own in hours but you can nuke a political one and it will rise, Phoenix like, from the ashes.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Yikes!
Just checked in again, and....
Jonnyrig for the win.
Later, boys.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2015 - 06:47am PT
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Wow...you go away for a night and bam. Sorry you feel that way Ed, what ever I done in/for climbing is nothing compared to the relationship with my wife (41 married) raising our three children, trying to be a good brother to my only sister and being a good friend to people I know and care about.
I am a little passionate about the direction of this country and honestly don't think I'll change change it by posting on a climbing related site, my intention is get the opinions and facts of people who have a similar interest to me (climbing).
Also, it been raining for three day here northern NM and my type A personality is getting cabin fever. I have always enjoyed your posts on FB and hopefully my bird and landscape photos added some good to your day.
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The Chief
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philo
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So if guns don't kill people then neither do cigarettes, automobiles, toxic waste spills, radioactive contamination or smart bombs. It's all BS to protect the producers from liability.
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The Chief
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2015 - 06:47am PT
I am a little passionate about the direction of this country ...
REALLY BOBda, then WTF is this shet......
Nice try, Bob.
At a community college in Roseburg, Ore., last week, nine people were killed: Lucero Alcaraz, 19; Treven Taylor Anspach, 20; Rebecka Ann Carnes, 18; Quinn Glen Cooper, 18; Kim Saltmarsh Dietz, 59; Lucas Eibel, 18; Jason Dale Johnson, 33; Lawrence Levine, 67; Sarena Dawn Moore, 44.
April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. : Cassie Bernall, 17; Steven Curnow, 14; Corey DePooter, 17; Kelly Fleming, 16; Matthew Kechter, 16; Daniel Mauser, 15; Daniel Rohrbough, 15; William “Dave” Sanders, 47; Rachel Scott, 17; Isaiah Shoels, 18; John Tomlin, 16; Lauren Townsend, 18; Kyle Velasquez, 16.
Dec. 26, 2000, at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield, Mass. : Jennifer Bragg Capobianco, 29; Janice Hagerty, 46; Louis “Sandy” Javelle, 58; Rose Manfredi, 48; Paul Marceau, 36; Cheryl Troy, 50; Craig Wood, 29.
March 21, 2005, at Red Lake High School on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Red Lake, Minn. : Derrick Brun, 28; Dewayne Lewis, 15; Chase Lussier, 15; Daryl Lussier, 58; Neva Rogers, 62; Chanelle Rosebear, 15; Michelle Sigana, 32; Thurlene Stillday, 15; Alicia White, 15.
Oct. 2, 2006, at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Pa. : Naomi Ebersol, 7; Marian Stoltzfus Fisher, 13; Lena Zook Miller, 7 ; Mary Liz Miller, 8 ; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12.
April 16, 2007, at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va. : Ross Abdallah Alameddine, 20; Christopher James “Jamie” Bishop, 35; Brian Bluhm, 25; Ryan Clark, 22; Austin Cloyd, 18; Jocelyne Couture-Nowak, 49; Daniel Perez Cueva, 21; Kevin Granata, 46; Matthew G. Gwaltney, 24; Caitlin Hammaren, 19; Jeremy Herbstritt, 27; Rachael Elizabeth Hill, 18; Emily Hilscher, 19; Jarrett Lane, 22; Matthew J. La Porte, 20; Henry Lee, 20; Liviu Librescu, 76; G.V. Loganathan, 51; Partahi Lumbantoruan, 34; Lauren McCain, 20; Daniel O’Neil, 22; Juan Ramon Ortiz, 26; Minal Panchal, 26; Erin Peterson, 18; Michael Pohle, 23; Julia Pryde, 23; Mary Read, 19; Reema Samaha, 18; Waleed Shaalan, 32; Leslie Sherman, 20; Maxine Turner, 22; Nicole R. White, 20.
Dec. 5, 2007, at the Westroads Mall in Omaha : Beverly Flynn, 47; Janet Jorgensen, 66; Gary Joy, 56; John McDonald, 65; Gary Scharf, 48; Angie Schuster, 36; Dianne Trent, 53; Maggie Webb, 24.
April 3, 2009, American Civic Association immigration services center in Binghamton, N.Y. : Parveen Nln Ali, 26; Almir O. Alves, 43; Marc Henry Bernard, 44; Maria Sonia Bernard, 46; Hai Hong Zhong, 54; Hong Xiu Mao, 35; Jiang Ling, 22; Layla Khalil, 57; Roberta King, 72; Lan Ho, 39; Li Guo, 47;Dolores Yigal, 53; Maria Zobniw, 60.
Nov. 5, 2009, at Fort Hood, near Killeen, Tex. : Michael Grant Cahill, 62; Libardo Eduardo Caraveo, 52; Justin Michael DeCrow, 32; John P. Gaffaney, 56; Frederick Greene, 29; Jason Dean Hunt, 22; Amy S. Krueger, 29; Aaron Thomas Nemelka, 19; Michael S. Pearson, 22; Russell Seager, 51; Francheska Velez, 21; Juanita L. Warman, 55; Kham See Xiong, 23.
Jan. 8, 2011, in the parking lot of a grocery store in Tucson : Christina Taylor Green, 9; Dorothy Morris, 76; John M. Roll, 63; Phyllis Schneck, 79; Dorwan Stoddard, 76; Gabriel Zimmerman, 30.
Feb. 27, 2012, at Chardon High School in Chardon, Ohio : Demetrius Hewlin, 16; Russell King, Jr., 17; Daniel Parmertor, 16.
April 2, 2012, at Oikos University in Oakland, Calif. : Tshering Rinzing Bhutia, 38; Doris Chibuko, 40; Sonam Choedon, 33; Grace Eunhea Kim, 23; Katleen Ping, 24; Judith O. Seymour, 53; Lydia Sim, 21.
July 20, 2012, at the Century Aurora 16 movie complex in Aurora, Colo. : Jonathan Blunk, 26: A.J. Boik, 18; Jesse Childress, 29; Gordon W. Cowden, 51; Jessica Ghawi, 24; John Thomas Larimer, 27; Matthew McQuinn, 27; Micayla Medek, 23; Veronica Moser-Sullivan, 6; Alex Matthew Sullivan, 27; Alexander Teves, 24; Rebecca Ann Wingo, 3.
Aug. 5, 2012, at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, Wis. : Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65; Suveg Singh Khattra, 84; Paramjit Kaur, 41; Prakash Singh, 39; Ranjit Singh, 49; Sita Singh, 41.
Dec. 14, 2012, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. : Charlotte Bacon, 6; Daniel Barden, 7; Rachel D’Avino, 29; Olivia Engel, 6; Josephine Gay, 7; Dylan Hockley, 6; Dawn Hocksprung, 47; Madeleine F. Hsu, 6; Catherine V. Hubbard, 6; Chase Kowalski, 7; Jesse Lewis, 6; Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 6; James Mattioli, 6; Grace McDonnell, 7; Anne Marie Murphy, 52; Emilie Parker, 6; Jack Pinto, 6; Noah Pozner, 6; Caroline Previdi, 6; Jessica Rekos, 6; Avielle Richman, 6; Lauren Russeau, 30; Mary Sherlach, 56; Victoria Soto, 27; Benjamin Wheeler, 6; Allison N. Wyatt, 6.
Sept. 16, 2013, at the Washington Navy Yard in the District : Michael Arnold, 59; Martin Bodrog, 54; Arthur Daniels, 51; Sylvia Frasier, 53; Kathy Gaarde, 62; John Roger Johnson, 73; Mary Frances DeLorenzo Knight, 51; Frank Kohler, 51; Vishnu Bhalchandra Pandit, 61; Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46; Gerald Read, 58; Richard Michael Ridgell, 52.
April 2, 2014, at Fort Hood near Killeen, Tex. : Daniel M. Ferguson, 39; Carlos A. Lazaney-Rodriguez, 38; Timothy Wayne Owens, 37.
April 13, 2014, at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and the Village Shalom Retirement Center, both in Overland Park, Kan. : William Lewis Corporon, 69; Terri LaManno, 53; Reat Griffin Underwood, 14.
June 17, 2015, at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. : Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, 45; DePayne V. Middleton Doctor, 49; Cynthia Graham Hurd, 54; Susie Jackson, 87; Ethel Lee Lance, 70; Clementa C. Pinckney, 41; Tywanza Sanders, 26; Daniel Simmons, 74; Myra Thompson, 59.
July 16, 2015, at an armed services recruiting center and a Navy reserve center in Chattanooga, Tenn. : Carson A. Holmquist, 25; Randall Smith, 26; Thomas J. Sullivan, 40; Squire K. “Skip” Wells, 21; David A. Wyatt, 35 .
All the BOLDED (14) "MASS/SCHOOL SHOOTING" events were under.... OBAMA's WATCH and in just the past SIX years!!
And he comes on national TV to let us all know that he is "Outraged".
One (underlined) under CLINTON's (1) Watch!!!
That's 15 outta 20 in the past 16 years have been under the watchful eye of Dem POTUS's.
Just like most of all them Violent INNER CITY Gun related shootings. DEM Mayors.
Noooooooooooooo, can't be.
WTF is up with that??
EDIT:
OH... MY BAD, it's ALL a carry over from, BUSH and it's ALL his fault.
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