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Norton

Social climber
Aug 11, 2015 - 11:56am PT
The Fox debate moderators were honestly very good with their questions

they went after Carson for admitting that he knew very little about the issues

sorry, but saying you are the only candidate who has separated conjoined twins still
does not instill qualification skills to be President
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
Craig - The Donald has doubled down on not backing off of the idea of running third party. If he does that there is no way the right can win. None.

I suspect however in his complete dickhead nature he's only saying that to try and scare the right into giving him the nomination.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
sorry, but saying you are the only candidate who has separated conjoined twins still
does not instill qualification skills to be President

This is getting scary, because I find myself agreeing with Norton rather often lately. As much as I admire Carson, I find it very hard to imagine anyone qualified to be President who never held elective office, with the possible exception of, say, a general, admiral, or administrator of a very large government agency.

I wish for a candidate who seeks to be president of all of us, rather than one (left or right) who wants to protect a subset of the US from the complement of that subset.

John
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
Aug 11, 2015 - 11:09am PT
If the Bernie and Black Lives Matter movements could be fused together

that went real well in Seattle ... didn't it!!!

Actually it did. That's how change happens with open-minded people. There was some anger and frustration from a lot of the lily-white progressives, but then there was some of that soul-searching/introspection/questioning assumptions at which most republicans don't seem to be too adept.

For example, I don't think you could possibly imagine a world where we'd be better off without citizens united and all the other aberrant decisions regarding money = speech since the 14th amendment.

When I first heard about Seattle, I was angry, "how dare they," etc., but now I think it is just what that old white guy from a very white state needed--he thought his history of working on racial issues and his message of economic justice would resonate with everyone with a liberal streak, a large majority of blacks will vote for democrats, but he was wrong and now he has changed his platform--I hope he goes even further--"we are all in this together."

The next challenge will be convincing some independents and others who are often suckered by the right-wing fear and war-mongering, american exceptionalism, trickle-down supply-side economic, just work hard and the billionaires will fix everyhing, and hey some day you might be one of them even though the only job you can find is at Walmart message.
MikeMc

Social climber
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:28pm PT
I suspect however in his complete dickhead nature he's only saying that to try and scare the right into giving him the nomination.

I've read the current idea trending among certain members of the right is that "The Donald" is actually Hillary funded; with the sole purpose of splitting the Republican vote.

Either way I think he is good for the Democrats.
MisterE

Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:34pm PT
As Jon Stewart said on his last day,

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:45pm PT
that went real well in Seattle ... didn't it!!!

actually, in the end it appears it did:
http://news.vice.com/article/third-times-the-charm-for-bernie-sanders-and-black-lives-matter?utm_source=vicenewsfb

bullshit is everywhere but we know where bullshit mountain is. The Bern seems to be above almost all of that which is why he's appealing to so many. He's in it for all of us and always has been. It'll be interesting to see how the right tries to rail.... erm... lie... about him.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 11, 2015 - 12:56pm PT
Jeb would make the ideal centrist Democrat to run against Pantsuits if his last name were different.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:00pm PT
Jeb is NOT a centrist.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:07pm PT
JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 11, 2015 - 11:23am PT

The Main stream media owned by rich right wingers will tear Bernie down to mud as soon as the day comes when they see their empire at risk


I take it, then that the "Main street media" does not include ABC, CBS, NBS, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC or almost every daily paper except the Wall Street Journal.

John

Wrong, they are the Main street media
If you haven't noticed, they all completely ignoring Bernie now
and haven't started the high intensity smear campaign yet

and instead focusing on Trump and smearing Hillary (e-mail, Benghazi, untrustworthy, unpalatable, blah lie, lie this, blah that)

Of course I didn't expect John to notice, since he's a right winger. How would he know that all the main street Media is now owned by a few right wingers.
Branscomb

Trad climber
Lander, WY
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
I don't know, man, when I read he was having a problem with black matter, I thought, wow, the guy is on galactic plane and that's cool, you know, black holes and all that stuff about disappearing into the void, but is this something that has to do with being president?

I don't know, maybe I misread something....:!
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:14pm PT
JEB! - just elect Bernie!

Jeb Bush turns out to be the Dumb one
Have you heard him speak?
He can't finish a sentence without tripping over himself

The Koch Brothers have their money on the Union Slayer
Scott Walker

He is a great success, Wisconsin has higher unemployment than ever, is billions in debt and their schools are being defunded so the rich can have their tax cuts.

Every Red State is suffering now because of Republican policies.
They are sucking off the Feds for handouts while they give the rich more handouts and take away social services.

They don't how to Govern, they only know how to take bribes and give away our future for more cash.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:17pm PT
If you think Hillary is any different then Jeb, then you need your head examined.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
What is so bad about Hillary then?

e-mail scandal? made up
Benaghazi? witch hunt

What is that's so bad about her???
Please tell,
and don't bother including a lame snide remark in your posts


Jeb the same as Hillary??????????

They are the polar opposite on every issue
EVERY SINGLE ISSUE
How is that the same???/

I know why you would think such BS, Infowars!

Of course Alex Jones says they are all the same, that's because Alex Jones is extreme right winger, and of course everybody is the same except his crew of fear monger cultists and conspiracy theorist nutcases.

Every uninformed right winger will say they are all the same, because they will never admit that them, the right wingers are the cause of our Countries problems, they have to shift the blame, they can't admit that they are the ones taking away rights and wages

Maybe with a little critical thinking on your part and you will see the difference
Get your head examined also
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
That is Not an answer to any question
Norton

Social climber
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:35pm PT
Its too bad the gutless democrats are so willing to go face down ass up for another Clinton.

well, not true

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are challenging Hillary for the denomination

for the Democrats, just as it is for the Republicans, both parties want their strongest, most electable candidate to run in the general election, and yes, Mrs. Clinton IS that person (D)

bottom line, you have to get to 270 Electoral Votes, and Hillary continues as that frontrunner with enough solid blocks on both coasts

I DO get some of the anti-Hillary sentiment - people get tired of what they see as Presidential dynasties with both Bush and Clinton

yes some people just will not vote for a woman, and some will not vote for a black man

bigots are everywhere, who cannot fairly judge a person on their own merits

The Democrats are praying the The Donald runs as a Third Party candidate so as to
take votes away from the Republican candidate, like Ross Perot did

And the Republicans are praying for anyone other than Hillary, she scares them with a larger block of the women vote in addition to the normal Democratic base factions
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:39pm PT
No on can say why they don't like Hillary

And yet they will say it wasn't the 10s of millions of dollars spent on smear campaigns against her

That's funny
No one will admit that they are just a sucker to what the main street media tells them
dirtbag

climber
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:43pm PT
Craig, it's like Norron says: a lot of people are sick of her. I get that, too. I voted for Obama in 2008 partly because he wasn't named "Clinton." But, she is the strongest candidate.
Gary

Social climber
From A Buick 6
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:44pm PT
the right has the media they like to tune in to, and so does the left

The left has media in this country? What? The Daily Worker? In These Times? Pacifica Radio? 90% of the people in this country have never even heard of them, much less read or listened to them.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 11, 2015 - 01:44pm PT
It's not that I don't like Hillary it's just that I like The Bern more. I wonder if he'd consider being her VP if the cards fall her way?
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