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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 19, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
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Yes madbolter, let all them pussies die.
I have mine.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jun 19, 2015 - 03:02pm PT
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Crank - I heard the speech. I'll take your point. And I agree that he has had to make these speeches too many times, I'm sure he's sick of it. FWIW the transcript you posted is heavily edited, we'll just have to agree to disagree on certain aspects of the content. Cheers.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Jun 19, 2015 - 03:03pm PT
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And, again, no proposed gun law would have prevented this.
Pure speculation.
We don't know that since they aren't enacted
Edit, maybe with a few more deterrents people might start being more careful about who they give a gun to.
Purely speculation on my part, but I can dream like you.
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Jun 19, 2015 - 03:06pm PT
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And, again, no proposed gun law would have prevented this.
Uh huh.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/?utm_source=SFFB
What is the role of guns in Japan, the developed world's least firearm-filled nation and perhaps its strictest controller? In 2008, the U.S. had over 12 thousand firearm-related homicides. All of Japan experienced only 11, fewer than were killed at the Aurora shooting alone. And that was a big year: 2006 saw an astounding two, and when that number jumped to 22 in 2007, it became a national scandal. By comparison, also in 2008, 587 Americans were killed just by guns that had discharged accidentally.
Now, I'm a firearm owner and I have a CCW permit. But it is an act of intellectual cowardice and dishonesty to pretend that the benefits stemming from our freedom to own firearms are without immense costs as well.
Every policy has benefits and costs. If you are not willing to discuss both, you have no right to participate in a serious conversation.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Jun 19, 2015 - 03:07pm PT
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And SC must have gun laws where you can't just give a pistol
to another person.....
Was he from South Carolina?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 19, 2015 - 03:19pm PT
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What's pathetic is that people are walking around like Wild Bill Dumbfuk shooting innocent people...
Agreed!
But that isn't solved by becoming simpering losers as a nation!
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:11pm PT
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Suprema - Ok. Sure. Suboxone is powerfull. It can and is script'd
just for pain and must be noted on the bottle as such.
If its for opiate withdrawal there is more paperwork for the dr
to do.
Illegal street sales of suboxone is a growing problem
Seems everyone reacts differently when stopping taking it
from nothing more that feeling uncomfortable to mass killer
like Dylann Storm Roof.
http://ssristories.org/
SSRI Stories
Antidepressant Nightmares
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:31pm PT
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We do indeed need to put more focus on addiction issues and how they're being dealt within our country...
Now we're talking!
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
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How to catch the ones who purposely fall through the cracks?
Remember: Authorities have said that Andreas Lubitz, the co-pilot who is believed to have intentionally crashed the German aircraft, killing himself and the other 149 people aboard, had a mental illness and hid the diagnosis from his employer.
Officials say that the police had found antidepressants during a search of his apartment in Düsseldorf.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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FWIW the transcript you posted is heavily edited, we'll just have to agree to disagree on certain aspects of the content. Cheers.
I was just making the point that he said a lot more than most on the right are mentioning. They are accusing the president of being decisive, which is ridiculous. He's calling for a national dialog on gun violence. We've got to try to do something instead of going back about our business until the next incident.
Brooding, troubled young men committing mass murder with guns....its unfathomable. I don't have the answer.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
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..says suprema taco advocate for big pharma.
So let it be written. So let it be done.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 19, 2015 - 04:51pm PT
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Millions of people are addicted to sh#t.
Only one of them shot up a church this week.
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thebravecowboy
climber
liberated libertine
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Jun 19, 2015 - 05:21pm PT
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DMT FTW.
And yeah, madbolter, I am curious as to how gun-lessness begets simpering loserness. Are you saying that your gun the man makes? If so, that seems soft.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jun 19, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
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Get that counseling going.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jun 19, 2015 - 05:51pm PT
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Says it all right there.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 19, 2015 - 05:54pm PT
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Says nothing.
one fought the cops
one didn't
one was a 21 YO healthy kid. that meekly surrendered.
The other was morbidly a obese diabetic with advanced heart disease that chose to resist.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 19, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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Your New York fatality was entirely the doing of "progressive" governance that required the police to arrest someone for the great crime of selling single cigarettes.
The supervising officer in that case?
She is black.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jun 19, 2015 - 06:18pm PT
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Says nothing.
one fought the cops
one didn't
one was a 21 YO healthy kid. that meekly surrendered.
The other was morbidly a obese diabetic with advanced heart disease that chose to resist.
What a dumb comment, Wendell.
He was resisting because he was in a choke hold.
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