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no_one
Big Wall climber
Hurricane, Utah
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Sep 15, 2006 - 10:23pm PT
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Ron, you leave my wives out of this!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 15, 2006 - 10:27pm PT
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Only if you don't use them as sherpa/belay slaves.
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no_one
Big Wall climber
Hurricane, Utah
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Sep 15, 2006 - 10:34pm PT
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Actualy they serve a higher purpose. They are part of a my grand plan to keep a dark uninviting energy shrouding and protecting the rock out there from them pin pounding pvssies!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 15, 2006 - 11:04pm PT
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What wives?
I don't see no wives.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 15, 2006 - 11:54pm PT
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Where's Werner? How did the rescue go today or was it called off?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 15, 2006 - 11:56pm PT
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Hopefully they aren't still at it...
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:04am PT
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Nah, it was over this afternoon. He got lowered to the ground.
Very cold and windy today. I did not go on this rescue, I stayed in the El Cap meadows. The boss wanted back-up in case something else came up. The rescue went smooth, except when they hauled the ropes back to the top. The wind blew about 500 feet of static line over the top and back into the woods. The guy was out of water and dehydrated.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:05am PT
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That should've been a relatively easy pluck. The weather was stellar today.
He's probably dealing with paperwork.
Cool news, Werner.
The weather posted only 8-9 mph winds and a sunny 70.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:06am PT
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How bad?
How far from the top?
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:10am PT
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He was on the tenth pitch Ron.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:29am PT
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So he was only carrying enough for half the route?
Couldn't down nail like Robbins 30+ years ago?
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john hansen
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:35am PT
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Does Fed Ex deliver up there???
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Standing Strong
Mountain climber
the other side
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:36am PT
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What the hell are you guys talking about? How do people discuss this here? Just shut your mouf and stop trying to show off how knowledgeable you are until the details get worked out. Not that they're any of your business. You guys don't even know.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:38am PT
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Chill out dude. We're all concerned for the guy.
Boy, Werner, that's windy!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:39am PT
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Yes John, but not overnight.
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Standing Strong
Mountain climber
the other side
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:44am PT
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Dude. Shut your mouths. I challenge everyone except Ammon and Werner to shut-the-f up until you know what's going on. Let this be the last word.
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:50am PT
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What's the deal? He a friend of yours? Why the outrage?
Roger Edit: Since you posted the same weak sauce elsewhere, I'll repeat what Mr. Ron posted: Are you speaking from experience?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:55am PT
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Sssshhh!
(Mimi, he wants the last word.)
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Mimi
climber
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Sep 16, 2006 - 12:56am PT
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Hah, not on my watch!
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Sep 16, 2006 - 02:18am PT
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(Like I give a f*#k about last words…)
I’ve gotta go with the SS on this one… And whatever happened to keeping on topic? The other thread concerning the soloist on TT went nowhere. Has this turned into a ‘post in the wrong thread’ thread? Or are we a bit snippy these days (yeah, the whole lot of us)? A little too quick on the draw?
You people have no idea who you are talking smack about, nor any of the details concerning this issue. What, work got the better of you? Sick of life in the shitty? Hate your job? Wish you were out climbing like the climber that you are slandering? Must be something, because most of you are acting like a bunch of little princess bitches… like you are so far above this person… the person that you don’t even know anything about (not to mention any details of the situation that they were in). What would happen if you were put in the position that they faced? What if? Well, considering that you don’t know squat about what we are discussing (funny how that works), why even bother to waste the time by posting your demeaning banter? Does it make up for the fact that you try to make yourselves feel better by harping on someone else who is actually out climbing when you are sitting in front of a stupid piece of plastic, metal, and glass?
If you had any clue about who you are slandering, or were talking to that person face to face right now, I damn well bet you wouldn’t even say anything close to what you feel comfortable typing here. Most of you on this entire forum couldn’t come close to this climber’s free climbing abilities, not to mention their overall climbing experience. Go piss in your own Wheaties; you’re becoming tiresome, and you’re just bitching at yourselves.
Hey Piton Ron, why you gotta be such an as#@&%e all of the time? You act like you are King, like everyone else should bow down to you and your ideas, like you hold some key to the grand scheme of all climbing. I find it quite funny that you sit behind the security of your computer and slander a climber because they had to be rescued. Easy to talk smack when you are sipping a glass in your cozy home, eh? When was the last time that you climbed El Cap, or something of the sort (degrading mole hills don’t count)? Have you ever climbed the Trip? And for that matter, are you currently capable of climbing any of the routes that were established by those climbers whom you wish to be so derogatory towards? Have you ever climbed Cosmic Trauma?? Clean?? How many aid routes have you repeated ‘clean’ or ‘hammerless’ (however you want to put it) that were originally done with pins and a hammer? Be real here. Or do you just establish ‘gumby elevators’ for the FA credit and the so-called glory, with heavy hammer in hand? Regardless of whether climbers use a hammer or not, doesn’t the amount of traffic seen on your “trade routes” have an affect on the rock with regard to erosion/degradation?? If these routes entailed A4 nailing from the FA on, would they still see as much traffic as they do today? How much damage would we see on such a route today?
I probably wouldn’t think much of all of your smack-talk, except for the fact that I met you last January and have experienced “The World of Ron’s Kingdom” and to tell you the truth, I’ve had about enough of your self-righteous spew (as I’m sure many others have as well). No, I’m not going to cater to your every move; I’ve got myself to think about once in a while… as do the rest of us. But what do I know; I was just trying to be nice to a fellow climber… little did I know…
Yes, your message about rock preservation is definitely something to be heeded by the climbing community, but let’s be real – you weren’t the first person to ever come up with that notion, as simple as the idea is. And, you aren’t exactly the poster child for any environmental organization either (see recent Burning Man thread or ask me if you want more details…). You know, if you would put your serious case of ‘short-man’s complex’ away for a while and deal with people on a realistic level, you might actually make a few friends. Oh well, I may be bitter at times, but you are the one who is stuck being a true as#@&%e. What are you trying to prove?
-Bryan Law
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