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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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"Yes, and one can hope you caught my sarcastic tone..."
"They love being slaves to the system, and the emerging police/big brother state."
Bwa-hahahahahahaaa!!!!!111169
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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What do the above quotes mean to you folks?
That you're paranoid?
Curt
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/papers.html
A link at that site leads to a link at this site which is relevant to this ST Chomsky thread;
http://www.911truth.org/despisers-911-truth/
which further contains this, amoung thousands of other tidbits;
6. Horizontal Ejections from the Twin Towers
Dwain Deets, former director of the research engineering division at NASA’s Dryden Flight Research Center, has written that the “massive structural members being hurled horizontally” from the Twin Towers “leave no doubt” in his mind that “explosives were involved.”80
Deets was referring to the fact that the collapse of each of the Twin Towers began with a massive explosion near the top, during which huge sections of perimeter columns were ejected out horizontally so powerfully that some of them traveled 500 to 600 feet. Although this feature of the collapses was not mentioned in NIST’s (2005) report on the Twin Towers, there could be no doubt about it, because some of these sections of steel implanted themselves in neighboring buildings, as can be seen in videos and photographs.81
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monolith
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SF bay area
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Sure, massive structural members being thrown horizontally 600 feet by silent explosives. Good luck with that theory.
BTW, the perimeter at the initial collapse level moved inward at the start of the collapse.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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The force is puny with explosives.
Give me 250,000,000Lbs (1/2 mass of a tower) falling 800+ feet (1/2 height) and I'll make your explosives look like firecrackers.
The numbers I've heard for this physics problem come out at about equivilent to 200,000 lbs of TNT.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Just sayin.. explosive explosions would have been utterly pointless and miniscule compared to the forces produced by that building itself once it started falling.
You didnt read the 200,000 lbs of TNT equivalent force part did you. (some of that undoubtedly got vectored sideways)
Second I've seen plenty of stuff that big and bigger falling down that far and further. Nothing about those collapses looked odd to me.. Hell I was commenting live that those folks in the streets a few blocks away were just running panicked from a basically harmless powder cloud.
Been there seen that multiplied about 1000 times over.
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monolith
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SF bay area
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Where's the audio, rSin?
Controlled demos are loud, and they don't throw multi-ton sections hundreds of feet.
If explosives are throwing some pieces 600 feet, the explosions had to be massive and loud.
theyve hardly fallen 50
How can you tell from that pic, rSin? Those bottom pieces are 20+ stories below the collapse front.
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
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"There happen to be a lot of people around who spend an hour on the Internet and think they know a lot about physics, but it doesn’t work like that."
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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you may have seen stuff that big come to rest after falling DOWN first, hitting the ground them bouncing out and away... you have NEVER seen falling stuff coliding in midair and being propelled away from each other as depicted
Wrong. You didnt notice that the building itself was being hit and crushed as the top stuff fell down? Some stuff got deflected sideways as would be expected.
it wasnt dust that holed buildings 4 and 6... which didnt collapse as 7 did
No Kiddin.
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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shows you know ass all about physics
No disrespect here, but may I ask exactly what your background in physics is? Your grasp of the subject seems a bit tenuous.
Curt
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monolith
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SF bay area
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your SUDDENLY going to be interested in "reports" of explosions now?!?!?!
No, rSin, I'm interested in actual audio.
One of the most recorded events in history surely must have recorded explosions capable of throwing multi-ton sections 600 feet.
On the other hand, maybe NWO's new line of explosives, Hush-A-Booms™ was used.
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dirtbag
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naked anti semitism
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Personally, I'd rather be ruled by Jews than Nazis, but that's me.
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dirtbag
climber
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Utter bullsh#t. You posted a link in the last page that singled out Jews as part of a conspiracy. Same sheet other haters have done, and blatantly anti Semetic. Yet you posted it as some kind of noteworthy, brilliant piece.
Conspiracy kooks can be entertaining, but sh#t like that, and the anti vaccine weirdos, show a real dark side too.
You're fuking nuts.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Because the Israeli people treat their "enemies", the Palestinians and other troublesome folks like black people, much different than the Nazis treated theirs?
Some would say they treat them a little differently:
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apparently there is some question about the panels legitimacy....
The former United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers, Param Cumaraswamy, has suggested the tribunal is a private enterprise with no legal basis and questions its legitimacy. The tribunal does not have a UN mandate or recognition, no power to order arrests or impose sentences, and it is unclear that its verdicts have any but symbolic significance.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Rush Limbaugh told me.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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this equating israel with "jews" is dispicable...
C'mon rSin, it's not THAT big of a stretch.
You're using Nazi propaganda as a way to slam Israel? Nice.
*First, I didn't actually equate the two, you did.
* Second, Despicable is the correct spelling. If you're going to use a word to make a point, try and spell it correctly.
* Third, given the choice between Jews and Nazis, who would you prefer to be governed by?
Don't tap dance, just say it.
survival, are you not an Israeli living in Israel?
Ummm, no, I'm not. Where in the world did you get that?
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