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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 22, 2013 - 12:40am PT
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Perhaps.. But the Whitewater report brought us some business actually. We managed to snag a small subcontact escorting Lewinsky for a couple weeks.
As Franky liked to say...She did have a purty mouth.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Nov 22, 2013 - 12:46am PT
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Wow, this thread is getting some static....we're not picking you up that well here on Earth.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 22, 2013 - 12:47am PT
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What .. you don't beleive me crankster?
You do realize that is why they don't care if we talk about this stuff don't you?
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:11am PT
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"Conspiracy Theorists have one advantage: They don’t have to have all the answers, merely enough questions and doubts to shatter the mainstream consensus. The Lone Nut orthodoxy is essentially a closed narrative — it all but says “Keep moving folks, nothing to see here” — while the conspiracy theories are self-sustainingly open-ended, branching infinitely, a perpetual-motion mystery that will be with us forever. But all conspiracy theories disintegrate on close inspection."
This is the most famous, most studied murder in the history of mankind. Not one credible piece of evidence, not one word, has come forth in 50 years to disprove the Warren Commission's conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald committed the murder, acting alone.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:18am PT
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Actually, many if not most "conspiracies" have come to fruition as correct--it's the public perception and their short sightedness that have sustained.
Don't really care that much, just paying attention to history long forgotten...
Think Tonkin Gulf Incident, and the overwhelming Black Flag operations gone wrong, then public years later and dismissed
edit: If simplicity is what the masses want, then that is what they'll get
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 02:34am PT
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Yep, and Unicorns exist, and the Ancient Aliens will arrive soon, and you fart giant green and blue bubbles that you dance around and eat and claim taste like candy. Why? Cause I say so, that's why.
Jammer. Our own Kruger-Dunning poster boy.
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
http://www.psoriasissociety.ttsg.org/pdfs/Dunning-Kruger%20Effect.pdf
Curt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 02:51am PT
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Awesome. Again, do better research.
How about you don't misquote me by attributing your bullshit link to me? Would that be OK?
Curt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
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Well, as I posted earlier, but jammer conveniently ignored:
OK, let's do this. You tell me which Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory is correct--they can't all be correct. Was Kennedy killed by the CIA, FBI, Cubans, Mafia, LBJ, etc. Once you tell me which conspiracy you believe to be correct, I'll then attempt to explain why that isn't so. Fair enough?
Please explain your conspiracy to me--you know, the one that is correct in your mind. I'll be happy to then offer evidence that you are mistaken.
Curt
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
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So, Curt, which conspiracy theory do you think is correct? The Warren Comission's theory?
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
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Nice try.
Curt
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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Well then, stop playing the "If you don't believe this then you must believe that" game.
Tell me about the magic bullet theory . . .
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
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Except to a conspiracy theorist, there is nothing magic about it.
Curt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
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Or rSin, you could look at the actual respective positions of Kennedy and Connally in the limousine.
Curt
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nov 22, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
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Yep, Kennedy was in a jump seat, situated higher than Connally.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
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we see youve never heard of elevation curt
A Discovery Channel television special, Unsolved History: JFK — Beyond the Magic Bullet, attempted to replicate as well as possible the conditions of that day. The participants set up blocks of ballistics gel with a substance similar to human bone inside. These studies showed that it was possible to produce largely undeformed bullets, if they were slowed by a passage through a tissue-like substance before striking bone.
Next, two mannequin figures made of ballistic anatomical substances (animal skin, gelatin, and interior bone-like cast) were set up in the exact relative position of JFK and Connally. A marksman fired the same rifle model found in the Book Depository from a distance equal to that of the sixth floor of the Book Depository building, using a round from the same batch of Western Cartridge Company 6.5x52 mm ammunition purchased with the surplus Carcano weapon in early 1963. The path of their single bullet (followed by high speed photography) duplicated, almost exactly, the wounds suffered by the victims that day, the only difference being that the bullet did not quite have enough energy to penetrate the "thigh" substance in front of the Connally figure, because it struck an extra bone in the "rib" model (i.e., it fractured 2 ribs in the model vs. one rib in Connally). It was also slightly more deformed than CE 399, possibly for the same reason. However, this bullet came close to duplicating all wounds in both men with a single shot, with a bullet having little deformation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory
Curt
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Nov 22, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
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50 years ago, it mattered.
Today there is nothing more to be gained from the endless speculation except the money it puts into the pockets of the people publishing their conspiracy theory books.
My democrat mom and republican dad both cried. Don't know that there would be any bipartisan tears today.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 22, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
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Today there is nothing more to be gained from the endless speculation except the money it puts into the pockets of the people publishing their conspiracy theory books.
Yes, I'm fairly certain that's exactly what the conspiracy theories are all about. The facts of the assassination are well known and have been for some time.
Curt
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