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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Aug 22, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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Wow, this thing is really looking mean.
30+ hrs. ago I thought there might be a chance of getting this thing under some control by the weekend. My guess was wrong.
To residents and firefighters--good luck, stay safe, and watch for embers.
In CA and the entire west, firefighting resources are currently stretched thin. I think this is part of the problem here.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Aug 22, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
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Any word on how this started? Inciweb just says "under investigation"...you guys hear anything else?
Stay safe everyone.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 22, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
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Was talking with a CalFire chief Tues night.
The MODIS imagery is from the 2 MODIS satellites. Shows fire, vegetation, smoke, snow etc.
It's somewhat over sensitive. Can show a few "hotspots" that don't exist. CalFire flies over them in a spotter plane to check.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate-Resolution_Imaging_Spectroradiometer
I think it makes two passes a day in daylight.
There's also an experimental satellite that shows lightning strikes both cloud to cloud and cloud to earth. CalFire subscribes to that data as well. The Monday night lightning storm here in the SCruz mtns produced a large number of satellite observed "strikes" to ground. CalFire found and extinguished 2 or 3 fires on the ground and then Tues AM overflew this entire area to be sure there was nothing else.
man…this is some NASTY fire.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 22, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 22, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
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The latest official report: 8:00 AM
The Rim fire has transitioned into unified command with Cal Fire and Forest Service on August 21 at 2:00 p.m.
Fire continues its eastward spread along Packerd Canyon Road and Pilot Ridge. Structure defense continues for San Jose Camp, Spinning Wheel and Tawonga Camp as the fire moves up the middle fork of the Tuolumne.
The fire continues to spread northwest burning past Butcher Knife Ridge and moving into Grapevine Creek; northeast up the Tuolumne River Drainage from the Gravel Range past Jones Point Lookout; and continue to spread southeast edge along Hwy 120 to the east.
Firing operations have begun on Ferretti Rd. as the fire progress west towards the community of Pine Mountain Lake. Direct suppression methods have been successful.
The availability of fixed wing air craft is pertinent to the success of suppression operations. The use of Maffs C-130s and the V-LAT DC-10 has greatly improved suppression efforts. Use of Military Rotary wing aircraft continues today.
In the next 24 hours the fire is expected to continue up the Tuolumne River canyon, and continue its spread to the north and east.
Due to inaccessible, steep terrain and active fire behavior a combination of direct and indirect attack will be used on this incident. Direct line suppression efforts are impeded by difficult access and steep inaccessible terrain. Active fire behavior today raises safety concerns for crews adjacent to the fire’s edge. Smoke exposure within the deep drainage of the Clavey River will be an issue for fire crews as well.
Not looking good. At least they seem to be holding it at Ferreti Rd. Everything north and east seems at risk.
54,000 acres and 2% containment.
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Strider
Trad climber
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Aug 22, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
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Not much new info so far. The fire seems to have stayed away from Hardin Flat rd so far. Sawmill was overrun but last I heard only a few out buildings were lost, no mention if homes destroyed. Tawonga was also over run but also no update on structure damage there. Still several miles from evergreen lodge and Mather. Report from a PG&E worker that 40 some odd poles are down so electricity will be a while coming.
neebee, I wish I had more to tell you about Matt but last I heard he was headed out with his horse. The direction he was going has plenty of exit routes so I am sure he is safe.
-n
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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Aug 22, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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Any word on how this started? Inciweb just says "under investigation"...you guys hear anything else?
Based on the fact it started on The Clavey River not far from the confluence with the T, I have friends that suspect it was paddlers who spent the night at Clavey Rapid. That is likely one of the most camped at spots on the river.
But I did hear that it may have started higher on Clavey Ridge, so maybe lightning caused? It could have been smoldering for days or even a week before it went up.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 22, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
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hey there say, strider... i just got an email from a former supertopo poster... and heard he is with folks in the hardin flat area...
thank you for any and all info, strider...
prayers and love to you all...
oh my... i sure hate what fires do when out of control, :(
wishing and holding out, at the ol' prayer-front-line...
god bless to all...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 22, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
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hey there say, ron anderson!! thank you for posting all that info for me...
thank you so very much and kindly!!
god bless...
got to go now... art-painting chores... :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 22, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
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hey there say, khanom.... hope all is going well for you...
got to go now... you are in thoughts and prayers, as all are, there...
hope the melons help folks, i mean, my oh my, they are plain ol'
melons... :O :)
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command error
Trad climber
Colorado
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Aug 22, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
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Oh no! Hope they can save the Penny Pines by Cherry Lk.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 22, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
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hey there say, timid... i just got back on line, after calling my folks...
they heard this same info from mark:
that i just heard...
say, it DOES match what you said, my email from just a bit agao said that he was with the nichols... is THIS the same folks you mentioned, and yes, it was at sunset inn... so i know he is safe then... and with dear horse...
please keep in touch, on this... thanks so very kindly and soooooo very much, dear andy!!!!!
praying and crying for all the folks... i love for folks to have their homes and families, so this always makes me sad... and for the firefighters...
they did NOT have to chose this line of work... WHAT IF none, ever did...
we are so indebted to folks that chose this work, and god watch over them, amen...
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Aug 22, 2013 - 07:41pm PT
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If reports on twitter are to be believed the area just east of and adjacent to PML airport and Unit 12 of PML (if that's different) are being mandatorily evacuated. The airport's east-northeast facing webcam seems to refresh every 15min
4:35pm:
Now (live):
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Aug 22, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
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Can anyone explain why there is a white cloud above the darker smoke cloud?
Could it be water vapor from fire suppression water drops rising through
the smoke to condense into a cap cloud thousands of feet above?
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 22, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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View from Yosemite Helli-tack at Crane Flat hour ago ..... grim.
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Radish
Trad climber
SeKi, California
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Aug 22, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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Don't know if this link has been added yet.. http://wlfhotlist.com/threads/36507-CA-STF-Rim/page10 Some cool News Helicopter stuff and a great resource for alot of other fire info too. The nation is on Level 5 and Fire Resources are just strapped all over. I'm not sure in my 10 years of fire that I have seen it at that level!
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