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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
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Um...and you know, somehow, she didn't post those photos herself?
It just feels creepy. I'm sure she did, back when life was great.
empathy... try it.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
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Blah...lighten up dude.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
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Snowden is a hero for sure. To paraphrase Daniel Ellsberg, "at great risk to himself, Snowden has conferred an incalculable benefit on our democracy".
For those of you critical of Snowden, those of you so willing to give up all privacy, and possibly all liberty, for the sake of some safety, how did you become rock climbers? Doesn't your strong preference for safety dictate you stay at home on the couch and surf the tube?
Maybe you are sport climbers. If so, then I understand. :-)
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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This story stinks on every level.
Of course we were being spied on since the Bush admin. Nothing new, Obama's crew just kept it going. Patriot act everyone!
And I'm sorry but how does a high school dropout and military failure like this guy manage to earn top secret CIA security clearances with a $200K job? Not even Carrie Mathison can get that. And she's not real.
Though I do love Homeland.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
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Fluoride, as public education is in large part an exercise in conformity, very smart people sometimes have great difficulty in school. They choose not to conform. Did you watch Snowden's video? He is quite aritculate and clearly very bright.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 11, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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very smart people sometimes have great difficulty in school.
Greg Davis, Junior College drop-out. I'm a smrat!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
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In America, the Stupid have the numbers, and the Stupid will always band together to defeat the Smart Guy.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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Of course we were being spied on since the Bush admin.
I suggest you read Wild Bill Donovan, the founder of the OSS. The OSS
didn't do much spying on US citizens, that was J Edgar Hoover's portfolio,
which we all know he carried out with a vengeance. The stuff he did makes
anything the NSA is doing look a very weak sauce.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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I suspect that the only reason the content of our phone calls is not being harvested is the prohibitive storage requirement.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
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the prohibitive storage requirement.
Just did the math, ~80 bytes per text times 7 texts a day times 300 million cell phones... 65 terabytes a year for just texts. Really not that much. Add in pictures/photos and it skyrockets, tho. I have 2 terabytes on my 4-year old home PC, FYI.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
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If he likes ballerinas, which apparently is the case, Russia would be an excellent choice.
I see that Booze Allen fired him-- funny if he filed a wrongful termination suit.
I almost had to get a security clearance once and researched the ins and outs of it, it's really not that big of a deal if you've kept your nose more or less clean.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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Hi G
Good work for the storage requirements of texts. I was thinking of the digitized audio of a phone call, considerably more than 80 bytes.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Good work for the storage requirements of texts. I was thinking of the digitized audio of a phone call, considerably more than 80 bytes
Good call. Well, they did put a man on the moon... what's a couple of Fry's electronics worth of storage?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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I almost had to get a security clearance once and researched the ins and outs of it, it's really not that big of a deal if you've kept your nose more or less clean.
Oh yeah? Try and get one to work at Sandia Labs. You would think they
were building atomic bombs there or something.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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The phone call records fishing expeditions were the main focus of the hearings lately. But that is only the tip of the iceberg, as Snowden told. They aren't going to discuss in open hearings most of what they do.
What is the difference between searching the content of all internet comms and searching every house?
Separately, - if they are going to look at all comms, why is the policy itself classified? It's one thing to classify the actual infomation gained, but in a democracy the people need to know how the government works.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
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congress should shut up
they voted FOR this, over and over on renewals
now some pretend they never heard of it
posers
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Jun 11, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
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100 plus is still a bunch of money!
Seems like a strange action on his part. Lose your country, live in girlfriend "dancer", and now he has to worry about getting taken by the Chinese.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jun 11, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
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Ron, they could lock him in solitary incommunicado just like Manning.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 11, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
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he broke our laws by leaking classified information, and when we get our hands on him we will prosecute, find him guilty, and sentence him to prison
that is why he left and is hiding in Hong Kong and probably will accept asylum from Russia if they make good on talking about offering it to him
we'll get him eventually and he could get 20 years here
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