The Borders Of Decency, Breasts, And A Little Fun. Ladies?

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kennyt

climber

Woodfords,California

May 13, 2013 - 09:53pm PT

Werner,how do you feel about a nice rack? and you know what kind of rack I'm referring to.

Jennie

Trad climber

Elk Creek, Idaho

May 13, 2013 - 09:54pm PT

Supertopo is a no-hostage facility.....

That's reassuring...ha-ha!

splitter

Trad climber

SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane

May 13, 2013 - 09:55pm PT

OK, let me think back on this. 1st we had an extremely tragic situation unfold practically right in front of our own eyes on the 'WWW'. Then, here on g00d ol' super T within hours, the shock turns to outrage with sides being taken, blah, blah, blah. Who wuld'a guessed. It further devolves, while bumping everything off of the front page, into what might end up being the flashpoint for something that will make the American Civil War look like a walk in the park. Talk about heated & vitrolic...sheesh.

So, Anastasia (a woman, btw, case someone hasn't noticed ) gets an idea, and initiates the 1st boob thread with high hopes of it becoming somewhat of a distraction, at least, from the sh#t storm dominating the front page. And who knows, perhaps she was instrumental in preventing a bloody civil war here in Amurica, eh?

So, for some reason or other, it gets deleted! I never checked out Moosedrools boob thread, so I can't comment on it. My assessment of him on the "LOL, C'YA" thread were a reflection of what I had came too regarding his posts on other threads (didn't get around to checking out any of his personal threads) so I'm not sure why some peeps are so upset with him.

Not sure where things are going at this point. Sorry to see so many people leave. I do tend to be analytical, and can see fairly strong arguments coming from at least three different directions, including the two prevalent ones here. But I will spare you that and just keep my mouth shut. Plenty of other threads to give my opinion of what constitutes pornography and what is simply appreciation/admiration or demeaning, or whatever of the female form. And what has the added capacity to lead a youngster down that seemingly never ending road that would best not be traveled. Which brings this thought to ponder; there are probably a lot of youth also lurking, perhaps we should keep that in mind at times, not only in regards to what they may see, but with what they might hear.

Cheerio!

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

May 13, 2013 - 10:00pm PT

Moose-drool is a pollack and Anastasia is a greco...They are both smart and we are stupid...

LilaBiene

Trad climber

May 13, 2013 - 10:02pm PT

Hey, I didn't even post to this thread, and I'm being called all kinds of names I've never been called before...just because I'm female. So much for discourse.

I think the human form is beautiful. I'm trying to raise the muppet so that she is comfortable in her own skin. We are all naked underneath our clothes -- it's not something you can really get around. True beauty, imho, is not something that can be seen in a flat picture, but rather in the way a person interacts with the world.

What I very honestly don't understand is why there seems to be such a great need to try to shock and intimidate other people. I don't need to be told that this behavior exists (many of the posters to this thread have rather (inadvertently) made it very clear that it does) -- as a woman, I've had to navigate around jungle animals my entire life. Some clearly aspire to behaving like an animal that lacks an evolved frontal lobe -- it is what it is.

My creative writing professor in college taught that it was okay to use swearing in your writing, so long as it was used as a spice, like salt or pepper. Serve up an entire dish of one or the other, and you're writing will just be a pile of sh#t.

We all express ourselves and interact with the world in different ways -- in written, visual, aural, kinesthetic and other forms -- I respect that. What doesn't earn my respect is abusive behavior. But that's just me.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

May 13, 2013 - 10:17pm PT

Cragman shot a bear....? Bastard...!

Some Random Guy

climber

Under a Little Pink Umbrella

May 13, 2013 - 10:19pm PT

Locker posting a picture of his beautiful granddaughter just a few posts away from his infamous 'camel toe' picture, (which he clearly does not find offensive)

wow, locker's got a freakin' HOT camel toe! who woulda thunk it...

Ricky D

Trad climber

Sierra Westside

May 13, 2013 - 10:35pm PT

Here's the deal as I myopically see it - we have this open and free network of instant global communications called the Internet - a place where all can be free and spew rainbows of unicorn enlightenment upon their fellow man.

Except that about half the people on this planet are as#@&%es and the other half doesn't think it's them.

In the old days when relationships were face-to-face, you could decide in a minute whether you wanted to hang out with Firepit Crowd 1 or Firepit Crowd 2. We could avoid as#@&%es at will.

What this usually meant was that over time - we migrated to like minded people with whom we could hold safe and predictable conversations without panty bunching or pearl clutching coming into play.

Back in the early Usenet days, we had happy conversations with others just like ourselves, We were erudite, witty, polite, civil and interesting all in a glorious non-confrontational manner. It was like living in a PBS series!

Then came Forums - where every as#@&%e in the world had as much right as we to post their vitriol. Rude, crude and totally disimbued of all forms of human decency. We are appalled. We tattle to Nannies, we hide our account, we waggle our flabby necks with much indignation. We demand retribution and immediate restoral of our happy place.

Which asks the question of why we endure each other on this site?

Because we each once happened to grope the same chunk of granite?

That's it?

That's the totality of our community?

No wonder Werner calls us names.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

May 13, 2013 - 10:48pm PT

parity in what constitutes "art" derived from the human form isn't new, from a post about a year ago...
...perhaps you should mediate on the controversy surrounding Anita Steckel's art... her obit appears in the NYTimes today...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/arts/design/anita-steckel-artist-who-created-erotic-works-dies-at-82.html

She was unapologetic in her choices of subject matter... here is a quote from the NYTimes:

The commotion made her momentarily famous in the pages of art publications (which generally liked her work) and in New York City tabloids (which generally did not). And it led her to form an organization of female artists, known as the Fight Censorship Group, whose membership would include Louise Bourgeois and Hannah Wilke. A mission statement she wrote for the group became a sort of manifesto for many women creating experimental art. “If the erect penis is not wholesome enough to go into museums,” it said in part, “it should not be considered wholesome enough to go into women.”

you can google her, and see her images, but they may not be appropriate for work...

another quote sums it up nicely: "Her ventures in erotica, she said, were in part intended to establish the right of women to make art from the male figure — just as men had for millenniums created art from the nude female figure."

it is relatively recently that women have had that right... certainly in my lifetime... and still it seems only grudgingly given.

Climbing is still dominated by males, climbing forums like this will assume male "culture."

Males don't see what all the fuss is about... it's just fun to them, so why not?
Seems like a common justification by a dominant culture.

splitter

Trad climber

SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane

May 13, 2013 - 11:06pm PT

rj - Cragman shot a bear....? Bastard...!

Shot a naked bear! Let's try and keep this conversation on subject. Attempting to break in through a window. Must'a took balls to do that. Which brings up this point; why don't they put some damn cloths on? Roaming around all hours of the day and night naked and with their business all hanging out! sheesh!

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

May 13, 2013 - 11:12pm PT

splitter...we both know that man went nude until he ate the forbidden fruit....Moosedrool appparently had no access to the fruit on the other side of the berlin wall...?

Yodocdau

Social climber

Richmond, va

May 13, 2013 - 11:21pm PT

My goodness. You all take yourselves so seriously. Just quit going to threads you find objectionable. As a female, post all the body parts you want. Who cares? Just quit the kiddie porn.

Capt.

climber

some eastside hovel

May 13, 2013 - 11:54pm PT

^^^ Wow...That was nothing short of mean-spirited and vindictive.

splitter

Trad climber

SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane

May 14, 2013 - 12:03am PT

rottingjohnny - Cragman shot a bear....? Bastard...!

splitter - shot a naked bear! lets keep this conversation on topic. ...

rj - splitter, we both know that man went nude tell he ate the forbidden fruit-Moosedrool apparently had no access to the fruit on the other side of the berlin wall...?

splitter - ok, sounds reasonable. but what's the damn Amurican bears excuse?

answer: they're perverts! everyone knows that yogi the bear & booboo were kinky from the get go. no big secret.

And, maybe they would get a little more respect if they started putting some damn cloths on. hey, i would'a shot a naked male bear trying to break into my house if i had women in their with me or not. never know what's it got on it's perverted mind, eh? sheesh!!!

so howsa'bout cutting cragman a little damn slack, already!?!

Snowmassguy

Trad climber

Calirado

May 14, 2013 - 12:05am PT

If you do not like/enjoy/approve of a discussion topic, why click on and invest time reading a thread? If you don't like or approve of something that in no way impacts your everyday life....bitch about it. Yeah that is the politically correct thing to do. Geez....