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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Apr 24, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
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Ahh california; it's a beaut of a state to visit (not counting the rat race population centers), but soon nobody will be able to afford to live their as desperation for tax revenue increases. Maybe the last permanent residents can turn out the lights and the whole place can then be turned into a national park.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 24, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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In the distant future, California will be a country, perhaps a super power.
Governments don't last forever.
In many ways Californians control the world.
It's a place were people from all over the world, the rich and powerful, come to avoid the lack of security back home. From here they enjoy American freedom to prosper.
The angry militants in far corners of the world would trade it all for a secure middle class home here in Burbank if they only could.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
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The angry militants have already moved there Spider.It's just with the high level of public assistance they have yet to sh#t in their own new nest.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:06pm PT
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Sh#t I thought he was talkin about you Rick how's Palin doin?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
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On her way to Cali for protection. She's tired of those damn russians outside her window.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
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It does appear some Californians are fleeing paradise.
Various reports that track population movements indicate that “the California paradise” has been losing population to surrounding states for a number of years.
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_71.htm
But then, as we have described, the appeal of California withered. Since 1990, domestic migration to California has flipped to a deficit. In the last two decades, the state lost nearly 3.4 million residents through migration to other states. In other words, it lost about four-fifths of what it had gained through domestic migration in the previous 30 years. Foreign immigration filled the gap only partially. Inflows from overseas peaked at 291,191 in 2002 and sank to just 164,445 in 2011. Meanwhile, net domestic out-migration has averaged 225,000 a year over the past ten years.
Idaho has gained 54,000 Californians as residents since 2000 and is #7 in western states gaining population from people fleeing the paradise of California. Texas has had the largest gain with 225,000 Cali residents moving there, with Arizona and Nevada not far behind.
Why are all those folks fleeing paradise?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
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Fritz, They always come back.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
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California is awesome! There is an amazing amount of natural wonders and spectacular places to visit without ever leaving the state.
Yosemite alone has the highest waterfall in North America and three of the world’s 10 tallest waterfalls (Upper Yosemite Fall, Ribbon Fall, and Sentinel Fall); the tallest and largest single granite monolith in the world (El Capitan); and the world’s most recognizable mountain (Half Dome).
Lake Tahoe (not entirely in CA) at 22 miles long and 12 miles wide, it’s the largest alpine lake in North America), and depth (the deepest point is 1,645 feet, with a 72 mile long shoreline. In fact, it contains enough water to cover the entire state of California to a depth of 15 inches.
Longest living tree “Methuselah” is an unmarked bristlecone pine that is, by some accounts, 4,844 years old!
Tallest tree in the world, the common names include coast redwood, California redwood. This species includes the tallest trees living now on Earth, reaching up to 379 feet
The General Sherman Tree, a giant sequoia in Sequoia National Park has the largest volume of any tree in the world. It weighs approximately 2.7 million pounds, has a height of 274.9 feet, a circumference of 102.6 feet, and adds enough wood per year to make a 60-foot-tall tree. By volume, it is the largest known living single stem tree on Earth.
The highest number of bald eagles in winter is housed by the Klamath Basin National Wildlife Refuge. It is situated in the continental U.S.
The highest and lowest points in the continental United States are within 100 miles of one another. Mount Whitney measures 14,495 feet and Bad Water in Death Valley is 282 feet below sea level.
The Monterrey Bay National Marine Sanctuary covers 5,312 square miles, one and a half times the size of the largest national park in the continental U.S. Only a few miles offshore is Monterrey Canyon, the largest and deepest (3.2 km) underwater canyon off the Pacific coast of North America twice as deep as the Grand Canyon.
The Moreton Bay Fig Tree, located outside of Santa Barbara, is the nation's largest of it's kind. It has a span of over 160 feet and provides more than 21,000 square feet of shade.
Plumas County is home to the world's largest ponderosa pine tree. It is 334 feet tall, 24 feet around and 7.5 feet in diameter.
Dorrington, in Calaveras County, is home of the second largest sugar pine in the world. The tree boasts a 32-foot circumference and is 220-feet tall.
The Sutter Buttes in northern California may be the smallest stand alone mountain range in the world, measuring a mere mile in length.
California has more active volcanoes than any other U.S. state: Mt. Lassen, Mt. Shasta and Mammoth Mountain.
The largest gold nugget in the western hemisphere was unearthed in 1854 at the gold mine in Carson Hill, Calaveras County.
The Joshua Tree Forest on Cima Dome is the largest, tallest and most dense in the United States.
Giant Rock, located north of the Joshua Tree National Park, is the world's largest solitary boulder at seven stories and weighing over 23,000 tons.
Lassen Volcanic Park is home to the world's largest plug dome volcano.
Eureka Dunes in Death Valley are 680 feet tall
Clear Lake is the largest natural freshwater lake within California and is the oldest lake in North America.
The area of Geysers near Clear Lake is the world's largest geothermal region.
The largest coast live oak tree reaching 58 feet tall, more than 28 feet in trunk circumference, and boasting a 75 foot wide crown, the coast live oak tree still continues its 250 year residency in Wynola today.
Lava Beds National Monument is the location of the highest concentration of lava tube caves in the world, the highest concentration of pictographs and petroglyphs in California, the longest lava tube cave in California (Mammoth Cave), the deepest lava tube cave in California (Crystal Cave), the largest obsidian flow in California and perhaps the world.
The San Francisco Bay is the largest natural harbor and estuary on the West Coast.
Point Lobos State Reserve has more than 300 species of wildflowers.
Vichy Springs Resort & Inn, near Ukiah, is home to the only naturally-carbonated hot springs in North America.
At least three pygmy forests thrive along the Sonoma-Mendocino coast.
Largest county in the country San Bernadino
California's Proposition 215 (1996) was the first statewide medical marijuana initiative to pass in the USA ( this should be reason enough for a lot of you!)
Located in Sacramento, the California State Railroad Museum is the largest museum of its kind in North America.
California has the largest economy in the states of the union. If California's economic size were measured by itself to other countries, it would rank the 7th largest economy in the world. California is the first state to ever reach a trillion dollar economy in gross state product.
And if that is not enough the greatest collection of cool people on the planet. These factoid were gathered using the internet. So it must be true
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
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Kennyt: Re your comment.
Fritz, They always come back.
That's good. I hope those fleeing Idaho carry a wolf back under each arm.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:33pm PT
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Fritz like a lot of states, things would be far better without some of it's citizens:
Hope to share a rope with you sometime in the City. Unlike a lot of CA climber's (apparently) I do travel from time to time. Both my boys flew the coop and landed in your neighboring states of Utah and Montana, the COR is our place of reunion.
Peace and love from the Golden State,
Charlie D.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
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Liberal politics has ruined this state, make no mistake. Just like New York and Illinois.
The policies of the state at the gov't level have chased high-income earners (high-tax payers) and business out. The result? Tax-payers flee and, laregely, tax consumers stay to suck more from our resources.
Welcome to Europe.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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Why are you still here? why not move to a red state? Texas maybe
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nutjob
Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:00pm PT
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Jim, I've got some California places for you to check out for extra flavor:
San Ardo
King City
Kettleman City
Lost Hills
Los Banos
Borrego Springs
Oxnard
Soledad
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Magic Ed
Trad climber
Nuevo Leon, Mexico
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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Every time I go to California I wish I could have seen it 200 years ago.
Even though I started climbing in '67 I didn't get to Yosemite until '88. Spent a month and had a good time but have never had even the slightest desire to go back.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
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that's what I said about Mexico.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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<<<^^^ I thought So Cal was part of Mexico?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
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it could be now
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
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Snowmassguy writes:
"I thought So Cal was part of Mexico?"
It's more like Mexico is a part of SoCal.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
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40 years ago THIS WAS A RED STATE. Keep laughing it up, as#@&%es, how you're "transforming" the country/state. Then, check in in with the current, liberated, editors of the recovering Communist Pravda news paper.
Get back to me when you see the f*#king light, idiots! But you never will, you will sliver away like little snails and the animals you are.
Have a look;
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