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kennyt
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Woodfords,California
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
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Brandon, we need all those guns to keep us safe. Don't ya know
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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We have a COWARD problem. Whether we're talking mass-murder or street violence, these acts are committed by COWARDS. COWARDS with guns.
That's silly. The shooter undoubtedly had mental issues but why use the word "coward?" To go in and start killing until they stop you almost always ends with a dead shooter.
They kept calling the 9-11 highjackers "Cowards" as well, apparently just because "Coward" is an insulting word, as suicide missions are crazy in many more ways than cowardly
So see a movie these days. I doubted the number of depicted killings in any theater is less than a few dozen on any given day
Peace
Karl
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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I don't see why those gun-toting psychos don't just go fukk off.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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we don't know how the shooter died in this incident...
OMG, I'm going to have to turn on the TV and stay glued until they find out. I can't wait to know... I need to know... OMG, how did it all end? I can go on until I find out... oh the suspense!
Anastasia, ^^^ THAT is what your parents were NOT exposed to.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
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I'm going to give up here, because I can't even follow the twists in that logic.
Kos, go to Peshawar and watch them make a machine gun out of used truck parts in an outdoor stall.
The genie is out of the bottle and you can't legislate it back in.
Yes, we need more love. That will fix it. Let's pass some legislation mandating more love although that is the liberal's answer to everything.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 14, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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Dean, IMO, it's both parenting and accessibility to firearms.
Kind of a perfect storm of terrible.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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you don't need a AK to kill a deer.
I agree with your other points...this country is really messed up socially.
+1
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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This is a SOCIETY problem....and ours is a society in freefall in terms of moral responsibility.
If this is the root problem then please explain the record low rate of crime in America, including murder.
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John M
climber
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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although that is the liberal's answer to everything.
you complain of over simplification, and yet resort to it. I know that one can't legislate this problem out of existence, but one can perhaps moderate it. Just because some people can build machine guns doesn't mean that every crazy person will. Most likely most won't, because they just won't have the mechanical ability to. So reducing access ( if that really is possible, and I don't' fully believe that it is ) could possibly reduce this problem. there is a difference between reducing and eliminating a problem.
Gun control is simply a method of reducing access. It will not eliminate the problem.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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Wow 28 dead- that's almost as bad as say A HALF MILLION dead civilians in Iraq.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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Just to reiterate Brandon's point for those who didn't click the link:
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
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probably a gun nut.....
Left says sensible gun laws
Right says those kids should have been armed....
Damn shame all the way around
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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Seriously, the people that are harping about "accessibility" of guns, how would you address that without compromising the rights of responsible citizens?
And please don't start spewing folk tales about imaginary "gun show loopholes".
kennyt thinks he is being facetious but the truth is garage builds ARE possible.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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although that is the liberal's answer to everything
Yeah, and if the shooter didn't have easy access to guns he could have made a machine gun in his garage from chevy parts.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
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Actually Kos, I'm a libertarian who hates Fox News as much as CNBC.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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ok, if a "liberal" response is to "do something about the problem"
then guilty
but also true is a "conservative" response is to do "nothing" about the problem
and then bleat and moan about their "rights" being "threatened"
which is better, do something or do nothing?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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although that is the liberal's answer to everything.
Surely more hate and guns are a much better answer Toker?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
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Hooooo eeeee!
Looks like the L word has really got some people up in arms!
survival,
you read my original post?
I don't blame the tool but rather the lack of guidance, i.e. loving parenting.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
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Ron: how would you address that without compromising the rights of responsible citizens?
I personally wouldn't worry about it - I'd savagely abridge and severely restrict any such 'rights'.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 14, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
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Looks like the L word has really got some people up in arms!
Well what the fuk do you expect man?
Like conservatives and regressives somehow have a deeper understanding of love and guns? WTF?
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