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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dr. F
Just accept that WBraun is a joke.
Part of the WBraun perspectivism:
Everything substantial is an illusion unless substantial is redefined to be non-thing, in which case non-thing is the only thing substantial and not an illusion.
WBraun is an illusion. And illusions are to be forgotten.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
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Food for thought:
Isn't our cultural evolution already fast enough? Aren't we already buckling under the strains of it in all corners?
So check this out, here's a guy Jason Silva advocating "Radical Openness" as means not only to furthering evolution but as means to accelerating evolution.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEWaBlSSUgw&feature=plcp
"What imagination does is it allows us to conceive of delightful future possibilities, pick the most amazing ones, and pull the present forward to meet it."
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It occurs to me: imagine a buildup of ideas, ten times over, a hundred, a thousand, a million, a billion times over - because of cultural evolution, "Radical Openness", and such. At some point, this buildup of ideas, or selected memes that work, could become so thick, the world so chockful of them - that the whole affair could maybe be called a "universal consciousness" afterall. A universal consciousness at long last. Maybe.
Fasten your seat belts...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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To the High Dr. F...s out there,
It saddens my heart to hear you mock the followers of Christ. Like Peter I want to cut ur ear off. But like Jesus I want to wrap my arms around you and try to give you some words of encouragement. There is one step of " blind faith" you must take. You have to close ur eyes to the "world" and WHOLE heartedly seek Him. Mind,Body and Soul. Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God. Jesus is the Word! That's what the Bible says. Since I took my first step toward Jesus, He scooped me up and has been at my side ever since! No, I don't have pics to prove it. If I did would you believe me then? I was a big doubting Thomas. And God has "shown" me; not only the Love and Peace I have in my heart, but also the actions in my day to day life. Along with my sleeping dreams He's shown me things to come. AND THEY DID! Without a doubt I KNOW He's real and alive right next to you! Definetly the most special "proof" (I guess U would call it) I say Gift is speaking in a different language. I'm a high school dropout. I barely know English. But I've prayed in a couple of different languages. Not knowing at all what I was saying. And the Spirit was Tremendous! Overwhelming! Undeniable!
And I know that I know this was of the True Spirit of Jesus the Christ! Amen.
So please when U say we "Christians" ( I try not to affiliate with that term. It's to broad and delluted) have no proof you couldn't be more wrong. It's the ONLY thing I know that's true in this universe! Don't get side tracked by big churches and preachers and politicians. Jesus didn't like them either. He came for us, the liars, the thieves, the adulterers ,the egomaniacs
Just study the 4 gospels mathew mark Luke and John. If U still don't get it John 8 37-47 will tell U why.
God Be With You
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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Mr.Spirit,
Alright little Homey I bit - viewed this & other sermons ( lets be honest that's what they are) of Silvas and so many things jumped out at me i am not sure where to start :
So ideas , thoughts contain in essence a creative energy of change
Word of Faith preachers tell us that words of faith are containers of power that will create
And change the world around you as they are spoken into existence- seems like a variation on a theme . In fact Silva reminds me of a kind of Joel Olsteen for the new atheist movement - good looking slender charismatic guy with good hair & bleached teeth.
Sweets tell me if I am wrong - cuz I know I could as a member in good standing in the Confederacy of Dunces - but folks struggle to describe this position without using the language of the divine , the language of mystics. In essence we replace worship of a creator for the worship of creation
In this new world of openness are opinions considered and esteemed - I mean are we expected to belive that divergent ideas & options will have equal access or will i have to tow the party line? Are all animals equal or are some more equal than others? Do I no longer bend my knees at the altar of a benevolent God rather acquiece to the benevolent leadership of the new elightned priestly class - Harris & Dawkins a veritable Moses & Arron settings Darwin's people free?
Appreciate you Mr. Spirit, may your synapses keep firing
"we are never more like the Creator than when we are creative"
J.R.R. Tolkien
P.S. is Silva advocating the new deification along with the new
Atheism
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dingus,
I had to consult dictionary.com when you used the word booger.
Booger:
1. Informal. Any person or thing: That shark was a mean-looking booger. Paddle the little booger and send him home.
2. Slang. A piece of dried mucus in or from the nose.
3. Bogeyman.
4. Chiefly South Midland and Southern U.S. any ghost, hobgoblin, or other frightening apparition.
What kind of booger were you thinking of?
Dried mucus in the nose of nothing or something else?
Frågan är fri, så får svaret klinga hur det vil.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Yea ur right , Jesus was killed in his earthly body. But his spirit rose to the the be at the right hand of God. And the last thing He told us was He was sending the Holy Spirit to help us. He commanded the Apostiles not to go out into the world until they were baptized with the Holy Spirit. Without the baptism of the HS man is very manipulable by the world and his own mind.
I can control ur emotions just by showing U a couple pics. If I show U a shot of Sharma topping out after free soloing the Nose ud be like Wow, bitchen dude, killer! Ud be stoked. Me to. But then if I showed a follow up pic of him tripping off the top and falling to the base in a bloody splat. Ud be like Oh bummer! I could take U from high to low in a matter of a few seconds. Without saying a word. Satan knows this more than we can imagine and he's using it every minute. With out the HS in ur heart it's almost impossible to discern what God wants for U. The Holy Spirit is proof positive of the nature and spirit of Jesus and His Father the God of Love. Any one can have it. Just pray and ask Jesus to send the comforter,the teacher,the peacemaker,the anointer,the descerner The Holy Ghost. Once the HS touches ya youll change ur mind forever! Sorry I can only try to tell U of my proof (or truth) and U can do nothing and be a naysayer. Or U could just ask and experience it for yourself. The Beutiful thing is its intirerly up to U. Your freedom of choice. Revel in it!
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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^^^ WORD!
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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There is one step of " blind faith" you must take.
You lost me right there.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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The Call of K2 -- "You lost me there".
Lou
He does give us each an equal measure of faith.
"to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith."
it doesn't say a measure of faith, it says the measure of faith!
we have all been given the same amount. the exact same amount that Noah, Moses, Abraham, etc., were given. they went with it, activated it, utilized it. that initial "leap of faith". that is what pleases Him. that is all He requires to initiate a relationship with Him!
so, i would venture to say, that faith has some substance to it. read Hebrews 11 (the faith chapter).
edit: khanom -- tell yer buds ta leave us alone, cuz, we already been "get'n it."! this is just - Tit Fer Tat (btw, dat be a gud woot name, eh?).
Okay, Respect dood! I'm outta here!!
"tic fer tac" killer, right up my alley.
yea, perhaps that verse is applied to peeps that are already believers. the faith required to accomplish certain things...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Splitter; There is a root at Smith that's called tic for tac. 11a/b I think, seemed pretty good just follow the chalk marks. U prolly like it.
As for ur lock on faith, not true...
I'll reply on the other thread
Knorham (sorry if misspelled) I feel for U bro..
Open ur mind and the truth will set U free!
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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Dr.F,
In truth there are a number of extra bibical resources that sight the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Here are a quick two just for you - Josephus & the Babylonian Talmud. Aquiant your self perhaps with Dr. Gary HAbermas ( www.garyhabermas.com) often sited as the foremost expert on the resurrection of Jesus Christ
I have one more question for you Doc - for someone who seems to major in the use of worn out platitudes I am surprised at the lack of acadamic rigor in many of your posts - the dr. Is it earned or just your battle name? BTW HAbermas earned his - give it a look and do honest enquirer instead of the typical knee jerk reaction
Cheers
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WBraun
climber
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Dr F spends his time talking to the empty chair .......
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Or maybe his mistake is trying to talk to empty.....now what is that thing above your shoulders, encapsulated by your skull?
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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Oh well doc gave you the opportunity to state
Something more than "I said it and that ends " defense - was asking for something more than an opinion but proofs and in truth you have none - most Atheist I know (including siblings who Actually earned their advanced degrees in real science) will admit that the most appealing concept of atheism is the liberation of a primary mover & creator - if there is no creator then I am not accountable - it is not science but a choice that
Motivates ~ riddle me this Dr.F why did Dr.Flew the leading atheistic philosopher for over 50 years move from his life's work to deism - because he followed the truth
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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DMT
Really ? Give me a break homey I am working off of an IPhone and doing well or so i thought - correct my expediency .... Okay - deal with my arguement ...
Cheers Toasty One
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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Not giving you sh!t Doc just was expecting something more from someone who carries the title Doctor - if I hurt your feelings my Apologies does not change the fact your stance is weak - Keep believing what you want About my education it wlll not change how I am compensated at the end of the day - if you do not want to engage honestly and openly - cool keep espousing mistruths and by all means disregard the hard work of actually investigating the issue - something tells me that makes it easier for you to sleep at night - all the best to you
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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K,
In truth I have wished many times that there was no God - Lennon is liar it's not easy - I failed as an atheist - and I have the pedigree that on paper I should be good at this - free thought house hold where education ( in particular science) was Esteemed and cultivated - being a Christian in my opinion is for no sissy la la's. I am called to care for you, consider you greater than myself - work to be absent of attachment to things and invest in people without thought or reward - it would be easy in the "natural" to say F.U. to anything and anyone - in the past if I did not get my way I usually would enforce it in another - in Short I was selfish & self serving
I apologize to all if my "ass holeness" came out - as I have posted elsewhere I esteem & admire successful atheists who live the consistent life - I have always enjoyed the fight ( more fight than flight - I blame it on evolution) By no means have I intended any offence to anyone
With that I wish peace to all please know that I truly hope ( and pray) for the best to all
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Stick your degree, Doc.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but your elitism reeks.
No community needs that.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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not sure where you're picking up this elitism from…. maybe you're interpreting things that way because you think your beliefs are… better? And maybe you find other people's non belief intimidating?
After all, from when you were a child who made you most uncomfortable?
Those who you knew nothing about?
And so, atheists may seem to have a high and mighty attitude because they are a pretty solid bunch on this reality we experience and share…
Its all those people who have the special imaginary friends that we will never get used to….
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