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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Give all the billions and billions of dollars spent on them 1/3 million $ a year VA Admin salaries to local entities.
Where would these many billions come from?
If it came from the fed, wouldn't it still be a fed program?
Taking care of homeless vets, doesn't sound like a job the corporate profit whores would take on. No money in it.
Taking care of the homeless, doesn't sound like something the stand up for yourself, power of the individual, Ayn Rand republicans would be very good at either....
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overwatch
climber
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my guess would be that they released the T' s in order to make the deal and have plans on tracking and snatching them again later, maybe after leading them to other wanted terrorist?
Edited:
The whole thing seems like an intel gold mine
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Overwatch, that sounds about right, with their new shiny microchips.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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The issue with this guy is that he appears to be a deserter, as opposed to a traditional POW. According to the NY Times, he left a note saying he had become disillusioned with the mission there, and that he was walking out voluntarily. I am still glad for him and his family, that he is alive and home. I would like to hear his side of the story.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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John M, I should have said I have a lot of experience with all types of
horsespittals. Yes, some privates are pretty lousy but I would wager the
percentage is far less. I have seen absolutely dreadful conditions in VA
and county hospitals the likes of which I have only seen in Soviet era
hospitals and which I can honestly say don't come close to most veterinary
facilities.
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John M
climber
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Chief, I have little personal experience, though plenty of friends with lots of experience. My only point was to point out that the private hospitals are sometimes not that great either. I do know that the VA has had a terrible reputation, but I have also heard from friends recently that they felt it was much improved in the last 10 years.
As for my own experience, the hospital that was understaffed had a history of being chronically understaffed, while paying its big shots loads of money, which simply underlines my point that neither system is perfect.
Thanks Reilly, its good to hear others perspectives..
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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F U if you think this prisoner deserved to die in captivity.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sure, shutdown the VA - that will work about as well as shutting down the nation's mental health system.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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healy, what national mental health system?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The chief, you side stepped these questions.
Where would these many billions come from?
If it came from the fed, wouldn't it still be a fed program?
Taking care of homeless vets, doesn't sound like a job the corporate profit whores would take on. No money in it.
Taking care of the homeless, doesn't sound like something the stand up for yourself, power of the individual, Ayn Rand republicans
Edit: f*#k those 5 tali-losers. They are not a serious enough threat to leave our man over there.
A military budget many times as large as the 6 nearest competitors combined and we're afraid of these 5 POW's?
Fear runs deep in the republican party.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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healy, what national mental health system?
Exactly. These days it's called 'county jails' and the nations sherries will tell you the are woefully inadequate to the task.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I don't know about other states - like Idaho - but California has plenty of huge mental hospitals. Patton, Atascadero, Napa, Coalinga, etc.
The problem is they're all full of criminals who should be in prison.
The taxpayers are providing the government with the necessary resources. But the government chooses to misuse those resources.
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overwatch
climber
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They got caught didn't they?
Referring to the chief
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The "billions" would come from the billions in salary that the VA currently pays out annually to it's admin monster club.
So it would still be a federal program then.
Re: The Five Hitlers, I never said we weren't vulnerable to more attacks. But a $500 BILLION budget didn't save us last time and isn't the only possible answer to our vulnerability.
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overwatch
climber
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I don't profess to know anything really about those five human turds. I am just hypothesizing on what may be a plan in place. I will definitely bow to your greater experience in these matters
not being facetious
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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If dudes like Crankster/Todd truly cared about this "leave no man behind" crap, they would be down at their local VA Ctr showing their true disgust for all the tens of thousands of Vets that we as a nation have left behind the past 60 something years on the streets of America and are currently dying left and right, due to the complete incompetence of the VA System.”
All of which is directly under the watch and command of President Obama. Who just two weeks ago highly publicly praised the efforts of the now resigned in disgrace Director. Who stated at his resignation last Friday that he had absolutely no idea the current totally fked up complete bullshet fabricated red tape issue that is killing Vets, was occurring.
Talk about a bunch of political "Orc's"..... Todd?
And
“The problem has gotten worse the past six years, not better.”
One more
“Between the two, I will take my chances with the local civ hospital instead of having to wait several years in order to get a procedure approved and then maybe, done.”
Chief we had this discussion back in Feb. 2013 about the VA.
I said how dysfunctional they are getting and needs changing but your respond back then was:
“This whinning routine that the system is broken is no longer an excuse. Cus it aint. Trust me”
So that was just about over a year ago and now with your new statement “due to the complete incompetence of the VA System” above What changed your mind? I don’t use Wiki/google but I see you do maybe that is the problem. So I will say it again “Seems you are not informed, course when have you ever been”.
Need to wakeup sooner or maybe just stay up and not go to sleep.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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By most accounts the United States didn't leave Bowe Bergdahl behind. Bowe Bergdahl left the US behind.
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overwatch
climber
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sitting here in the inferno that is arizona right now I gotta say that water looks friggin beautiful
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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McCain is a sad shell of a brave warrior. Over the last few years, he's screamed for us to invade 7 or 8 countries. Far beyond our abilities. He needs to fade away. Sad that he hung in there this long with his issues.
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