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Brandon-
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Done With Tobacco
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2011 - 01:34am PT
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OK, I'll make it crystal clear so you guys will leave me alone.
I'm glad that Bin Laden was dealt with.
I think that broadcasting a public party celebrating his death at the White House gate is not tactful. It may only incur more hate and violence toward us. We do not want that.
I am not tactful.
Now I've got to go pick more ticks off of me. Those bastards are everywhere.
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WBraun
climber
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They didn't kill Bin Laden.
You've all been owned .....
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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I'm Dead!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Anyway, it seems that the theory that bin Laden was being held at the ranch of friends in Crawford, Texas wasn't true after all.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Just killing Osama was going to cause great reactions worldwide and, I expect, security at our installations, bases and embassies was raised before we even heard about OBL's demise.
While the celebrations may be distasteful to some, may further inflame our enemies' passion, they are a familiar sideshow to such victories no matter the civilization currently winning.
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jstan
climber
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I would guess the operation actually failed its primary objective. To take him alive. Of course the
orders under which his guards were probably operating required under no conditions was he to be
captured alive. Very difficult.
I think the evidence is there that Americans are now cast in the posture of a hysterical lynch mob.
Our own government thinks this. They flew a contingent of Saudi's out of the country immediately
after the attack on NYC. So that they might be in no danger. By the way this also signaled the
government knew the nationality of its attackers.
None of this would be expected from "The World's Only Superpower".
All this while China is reportedly sitting on 3.04 trillion in US debt.
Our contact with reality is very much in question.
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WBraun
climber
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It was impossible to take Bin laden alive in this bullshit event since there never was a Bid laden there.
So they just said we killed him.
Simple
You've been Owned ......
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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jstan has a good point - geopolitics being what it is, some countries may see this, and events over the last ten years, as an opportunity, and also as revealing of US weaknesses as well as strengths.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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They didn't kill Bin Laden.
You've all been owned .....
And you're moron.
Well done special forces. f*#k yes.
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Brandon-
climber
Done With Tobacco
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2011 - 02:01am PT
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Hopefully we public will be able to hear the story of how it went down.
Hats off to whoever organized and executed it.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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By the way this also signaled the
government knew the nationality of its attackers.
Interesting observation.
Also interesting that Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech was given on May 1st.
I really don't think that celebrating will cause any more attacks then are going to happen because of the announcement of Bin Ladens death. It will be used as an excuse, but the radicals will already be making attacks. Its probably going to be a rough few days for our troops.
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Anyone read Sebastian Junger's book "War"? It highlights the addictiveness of combat.
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jstan
climber
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According to reports the event took place a week ago and the news was suppressed until they had
DNA data. Various family members of OBL were not in sympathy with him. Even under DX priority it
would have taken a week to get DNA from several family members, fly it back here and get it
analyzed and confirmed. To make sure they would have had also to take samples from the other
combatants. In the absence of a earlier verified sample from OBL himself it would be necessary to
show only one body belonged to an OBL family member.
I was not able to pick up the live stream of Obama's press conference so I don't know what was said
there. I'll watch it on Youtube tomorrow. Had I been in Obama's boots I would have laid out some
of the data in that report so that doubt might be dealt with right up front.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Obama said he was killed today.
You don't think Obama would bullshit us, do you?
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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When reality smacks them in the face, the conspiracy theorists dig deeper into their delusions.
Your ideas have been marginalized and your thoughts are now relegated to the sidelines of irrelevance. Enjoy your isolation.
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dirtbag
climber
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no surprise there...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Two of Bin Landen's virgins, arguing over which one has to go first.
Poor bastard.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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If the US had intel from August '10 of Osama's whereabouts, I'm guessing they had DNA from family of OBL in country and ready for comparison. JSOC pretty much has their shite together and probably did not have to jet it in for lab results to confirm we had killed THE Osama, not a shill.
Anybody have a real idea how quickly DNA tests can be conducted?
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jstan
climber
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Sounds like the report it happened a week ago was in error. Have to see how this sorts itself out.
Thanks for the link John.
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