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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:16am PT
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My contribution. On Strength in Numbers at The Sad (I think) boulders. Bishop, 2002.
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:24am PT
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That's what I was talking about previously. I've spent tons of time both boudering and racked up with gear.
The crowds at many of the bouldering sessions I've been a part of over the years have sometimes been huge. Yet, in all that time I almost never hear boulderers bagging on people who choose instead to climb 5.6 on a rope. Yet the reverse is not the case, as you have noticed.
Seems like people who are way into bouldering are simply having too good a time to care what other people are doing.
Bouldering as training for getting better at roped climbing is essential, IMO. Some people of course do it as an end in itself, and it is easy to see why. Besides the lack of expense and (for the most part) risk, it simply is the purest form of climbing.
"It may be because I'm a newbie, but doesn't hating on bouldering seem a little elitist to anyone? I mean it is the cheapest and best intro to climbing isn't it? Thats like, at least to me, big wave surfers hating on a guy from Nebraska who is just learning how to surf, or a grom learning how to drop in properly.
I understand disliking those who ruin the experience by leaving a mess or being obnoxious, but I find it incredibly odd that NONE of the Trad climbers or the Alpine climbers have never run into their own ilk being just as rude and obnoxious."
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2010 - 02:01am PT
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real bouldering...
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Sep 11, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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What are you doing? Laddering?
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2 l l
Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
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Sep 11, 2010 - 04:34am PT
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Hey smellz ,
Nice outside edge.
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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Sep 11, 2010 - 09:31am PT
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"real bouldering..."
Is the Le Conte?
That's where I taught myself basic aiding and jugging. Me and my even less experienced parter needed something to do while we waited out a grey, drizzly day. So equipped with a copy of "freedom of the hills" and some borrowed gear, we spent the afternoon futzing around. Good times.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Sep 11, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
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bjj: The crowds at many of the bouldering sessions I've been a part of over the years have sometimes been huge. The crowds, and associated behaviours, are things which deter me from modern bouldering. I like to boulder, and climb, quietly.
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426
climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Sep 11, 2010 - 03:58pm PT
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maybe that's why i never got any good!
i hated to boulder.
and detested the rich lake beta fest mentality of
"that goes like this" blah blah...
actually, i never really wanted to do any route more than once.
I always associated climbing, and enjoyed the process,
of having to think.
I'd say this is really truthful and accurate...if you can't do "hard" moves just off the ground, no way you're doing them "on high".
I boulder with a bunch of kids that send hard stuff (to me anyhoo) and would argue that bouldering is dammed cerebral...
Nobody can spray beta @ me though, too tall and climb with my own suck style...in MacLeod's book he definitely favors bouldering as one of the best ways to improve your climbing...young or old, fat or skinny...
R U 1 in 10?
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Gregg Olson
Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
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Sep 11, 2010 - 04:33pm PT
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The picture of Munge aiding up a boulder pretty much says it all !! No wonder he started this post and does not understand bouldering ... Do you think that is a more "real" form of climbing then bouldering ? LOL !!!!
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Gregg Olson
Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
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Sep 11, 2010 - 05:38pm PT
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John Gill ????...Did the master leave us ?? His website says 1953 - 2010 ??
Edit : Please see below. He is fine !!
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Gregg Olson
Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
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Jeezzz !! Im a bone head... I just went back and that is exactly what it looks like. All that lame bouldering Im doing must be making me a bit slow in the head !!
Thanks,
G-
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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Just finished transcribing an interview of John Gill and what an insight, I got to listen and write his words. He IS bouldering and lead many of us from the 60's, 70's and 80's on a pilgrimage to find out what bouldering is about to each individual and for me, he said it true....that it is a meditation, a pure love for movement on the rock, an end in itself.
Thanks John for your influence and motivation for so many years!
Peace
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Gregg Olson
Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
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Sep 11, 2010 - 11:43pm PT
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Ron... Is there any way I could see or read what you just did for John ? He is and was a tremendous inspiration to me. I learned the essence of moving over stone from watching him climb. FyI for all you "Real Climbers" out there he climbed 5.10 in the 1950's and 5.12 in the 60's before real climbing shoes were even made and with the grace and style of a zen or Ti Chi master.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Sep 12, 2010 - 01:39am PT
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what was the question again?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Sep 12, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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the question was,
"has the pad of bouldering left us..."
which is silly, i see pads left and right.
crsp, taser park, woodson, j tree, pads everywhere.
enuff ozone depletion to cause al gore to sh#t his already diahrea pants,
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Sep 12, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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boulderz4lyfe, yo.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Sep 12, 2010 - 02:06am PT
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if we get the chinese to start importing rope,
then the kids will toss the pads and rack up.
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Sep 12, 2010 - 02:16am PT
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More specifically to Ron Gomez's link, I give you the following, lest one think it is a "fad" :
Where and when did documented bouldering start? Some think it began with Chris Sharma in the early 1990s. Others believe it started with me in the 1950s. Still others think that Pierre Allain and his 'Bleausards initiated the sport in the 1930s. In fact, climbers were scrambling about on boulders in Fontainebleau as early as 1874. Does scrambling and easy climbing on boulders constitute bouldering? If so, then the 'Bleau climbers may have been the first to document an appreciation of the sport.
And the more specific link:
http://www128.pair.com/r3d4k7/Bouldering_History1.0.html
Good to see you back, OG Crusher BVB
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