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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jeff was a unique long term presence in the online climbing world. I'm sad to learn that he's gone, but it has left me still wondering if he was bipolar.
On rec.climbing in 2001, Bob Austin wrote
"For several years, various aliases (As of late, it has been darkwood &
prow_solo) have ultimately been unmasked to reveal the one and only, Jeff
Batten. His trolls have a certain predictable form that we've all come to
know and love. From his many posts and by drawing a few conclusions of my
own, it appears that he has been climbing for quite some time and may even
be a pretty decent climber. His aliases speak often of being bi-polar. He
works in the field of seismology. He irritates the sh#t out of many RC'ers
and yet, they always respond to his inventive (and often rediculous)trolls.
I'm not interested in climbing with him but he is an interesting and
irritating character. Has anyone on this NG ever climbed with Jeff? Can he
climb? Ever seen him in action? Is he as strange in person as he is on
this NG? Who is this guy?"
The tread continues at http://groups.google.com/group/rec.climbing/browse_thread/thread/c8697be595ff4886/aea1c84d3455fe28?hl=en&q=%22jeff+batten%22+group:rec.climbing#aea1c84d3455fe28
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Manjusri
climber
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Damn, Jeff elevated trolling to an art form. His humor is sorely missed. RIP.
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franky
Trad climber
Ford Pickup Truck, North America
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This thread is a good perspective on life for me. Sounds like he was really struggling, I hope he has found some peace, I really really do. All the best.
Lots of sad threads on this forum this morning.
People need to share a little bit more love.
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JMC
climber
oilfields of Sumatra
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RIP Rockstar.
I think this was one of his from wreck. :
Hello,
My local Boy Scout Troop has been given permission to give a rappelling
demo at a local college. All the kids want to take part so it should be alot
of fun for the parents to watch. The rappell will be down a 150 ft wall.
The kids have to take off their shoes as to not damage some new artwork
halfway down.
The kids will clip into the rope, and climb over a small 3 ft wall to begin
the rappell. They have all been practicing using the brakes over the summer,
on our 20 foot practice wall.
We plan to give fireman belays from the ground.
At the planning meeting earlier in the week, one of the parents
was giving us alot of trouble, saying we needed more advice on
how to do the demo.
It seems quite safe to me. I figure once they are on rope, if anything
goes wrong, we can brake them from below.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Henry
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Such a fascinating individual. He could make me scratch my head almost any day of the week.
Condolences to his family and those of you here that knew him in the real.
Into the great mystery.
Climb on Jeff.
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pc
climber
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I've gone back though some of the classic rec. threads this morning. They have me alternately laughing out loud and shaking my head.
Jeff's low key delivery and incredible persistence, best described in Dingus' "The Fisherman" are what made him such a "hit".
I wish him peace and continued trolling success wherever he may be.
Cheers,
pc
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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I'll miss seeing him around Stoney. He always had a smile to share.
RIP Jeff.
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Prezwoodz
climber
Anchorage
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This life ends to begin a next. Perhaps it will be greater but will this one will always be significant.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Hey, Karl,
This is a joke, right?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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I never met Jeff Batten but always followed his earthquake-related threads. I hold anyone who considers himself an "amateur seismologist" in high regard, especially someone who would choose Juan de Fuca for their ST identity.
Curiously I had posted this thread last week thinking he might emerge and post up.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1226267/images-of-juan-de-fuca-OT-but-geology-related
He will certainly be missed around here. My condolences to his family & friends.
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Andy Puhvel
climber
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I first met Jeff at Boulder 2 at Stoney Point in 1986. I was 14 years old and had been climbing for about two months....obsessively. Jeff could hike the Crowd Pleaser problem like it was nothing....something few Stoneyites ever really got wired. He was at his prime, and knew Yosemite was the sh#t. So he got interested in climbing the Regular Route on Half Dome. We talked a few times, and he was open to going up there with this skinny 14-year-old kid who had barely a few months of climbing under his belt. So he came over to meet my parents and the trip was on.
We hiked all day up the tourist trail and arrived at the gloriously intimidating base of Half Dome around dusk. There we ran into four other parties all preparing to blast in the morning. They sorta laughed at us and told us we were fifth in line. Well, Jeff didn't like the sound of that, and so he declared that we would start climbing right then. This one dude named Mike was on SAR and got pretty huffy about this, telling him that it wasn't cool with him, like it was against the rules to climb at night and he was the the rule enforcer. Batten didn't give a f!!!! He kinda brushed him off and up we went. On the third pitch ledge we rested for a half an hour and watched this wall rat chew on some old sardine cans. It was cold so we slowly continued on. We hit the slopey pitch 6 ledge at dawn. We climbed all day the next day without any rest or sleep. All four other parties bailed, the highest one around that slopey pitch 6 ledge. I jumared every pitch and Batten led, occasionally he'd haul and give me a break from jugging with the 20 pound pack. The chimneys sucked ass. At dusk we arrived on the giant foot-thick flake a pitch below Big Sandy. We draped ourselves over it, arms and legs dangling on either side of the flake, and rested for a couple of hours. We pushed on to Big Sandy by about 3 am. Finally a bivy ledge. We opened our pack to discover that Jeff's two beers we had hauled up (both for him 'cause I was only 14) had exploded and all of our warm clothes were beer-soaked and stinky. We spent the next few hours cuddling to stay warm, the only time in my climbing career that I have needed to spoon with a partner. The next morning Batten led us to the top, sunny and glorious summit of Half Dome. We hiked down casual style, and in the end it was a 65-hour push with about 4 hours of sleep.
The whole experience made me feel invincible, and soon I would return to link Half Dome with the West Face of the Captain. Last year, 25 years later, as I was completing a life's dream of doing the Nose/Half Dome link-up, I reflected on my first ascent with Jeff Batten: his openness, his brash and raw attitude, his belief in a 14-year-old boy. Thank you, Jeff. It was only one route, but it was as pure as the giant glacier that swept us all away down this granite stream. Thanks for the love.
Andy Puhvel
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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AP, Awesome post and tribute in memory of Mr. Batten!
Two young Bad Azz's, BITD...
Edit:(both for him 'cause I was only 14)Lol...too funny!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Very sad. I recalled that Dingus realized he hadn't been posting some time ago, but lost track of that thread. I don't think we made the connection at that time, unfortunately, that our Supertopo brother was gone.
Condolences to the friends and family of Jeff at such a difficult time.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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That's a great story well, told, Andy, thank you!
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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RIP...
confessions of a serial troller - posted 6/19/2003 to rec.climbing
Trolling - why do I do it?
For me, trolling can arise out of boredom, an opportune post, a
current event, it's my "devilish" side that sometimes needs a release,
it's a desire to test my wit and humor and pass some time. The primary
reason I troll, however, is because I have a need to laugh, and boy do
I. I can't tell you the number of times I've sat at my computer at
home or bored to death at work and have just laughed and laughed and
laughed. My co-workers sometimes ask me across the cube farm, "what's
so funny over there?" I just tell them they wouldn't understand. My
girl friend who understand "me" pretty well doesn't even understand
(although she is getting an official BURT BRONSON thong), which may
make this post, this confession of a serial troller, all the more
stupid and pointless as some of you may not understand - my hope is
that you will, though.
So what am I laughing at? I am laughing at the hilarity of my post
but even more so, the hilarity of the posts I receive from others who
know I'm a troll. Very rarely have I laughed at a response from
someone who thought one of my characters was real. I actually don't
get many replies from people who think a character is real because –
well, how could anyone think they are real? I like the wit and humor
that people who know I am a troll bring to my posts. I liked how Karl
Babba replied to BURT'S Yosemite TR about how he had to be lying, not
about the routes he did and the crazy times he did them in, but about
Breakfast at Curry being good. I rolled on the floor with that one.
Additionally, I about died when Andy Gale and Jason Liebgott did the
"whose cock" "Ron Cock" bit. Just like Mad Dog said, perfectly good
beer right out the nose. Beyond that, someone has gone to the trouble
of creating official BURT BRONSON wear - are you kidding me? That
stuff can't be planned - and that is why I troll. Those laughs are
needed in today's world of bullsh#t, deadlines, stress, traffic, rain,
death, smog, deforestation, war, taxes, cubicles, blue screens of
death, shitty bosses - should I go on?
The key here is that all those people that made me laugh so hard knew
I was troll. In a way, they're trolling, too. All those people that
responded with more than a "please turn off your caps lock", are the
ones I'm after. Trolling for me isn't about getting the new blood,
it's not about hiding my IP address or getting punk'd, it's not about
flaming some poor lost soul that can't figure out how to put an
ascender on a rope, or beating down somebody cause he wants to use a
llama to get up to the Cirque, it's about coming home from a hard day
dealing with sh#t and needing to laugh instead of watch the TV and
learn about some poor 19 year old kid dying in Iraq. It's about
punking a stereo-type, about getting through my 8 to 5er, about
dealing with the goddamned rain that won't let me get out and climb.
It's about my wit and humor and even more so, the counter wit and
humor that you guys bring to the table. It's about laughs. It's as
much about my laughs as it is yours.
So am I a washed up troll now? Maybe. Have I gone soft? Maybe.
Will someone flame me for posting this? Probably. Do I care? No.
When I bring in a new character will someone look for my IP address
and say "it's BURT"? Maybe.
Will I still make you laugh? Probably, unless you're a sorry old soul
too caught up in your ego to allow yourself the freedom to laugh.
Do I hope you still laugh? Absolutely, because you're part of the
process.
And will I still make myself laugh? You f*#king better believe I will
cause that laugh is one of the only things that keeps me sane in this
crazed world.
Sincerely,
E.B. Shoe, BURT BRONSON, Igor Slovaceikqi, and a few others who didn't
quite make the cut.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Thank you very much Andy.
That is absolutely the BEST Half Dome tale I have read in a long long time.
Not only have I always liked the everyman climbing story that never made the magz, but it really brings a side of Jeff to light, and shows us how much more there was to the man than the darkness of his last months.
Thanks again, and Jeff, thanks for taking the kid up the Dome.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Great story, Andy. Thanks.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Agreed, great story.
Again, sorry to hear about Jeff.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Thanks Andy for that beautiful perspective, a fine portrait for all of us view.
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