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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:16am PT
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I did a quarter of a hit of 4-way windowpane, made by a family-friend chemist when I was 8 years old, I remember the exacto-blade cutting the crystal pyramid, cupping so the shards didn't pop away, the subsequent bobbing maple leaves that looked like chinese men as we sat on a hill overlooking the south fork of the Nooksack river. I remember being happy when I was scared that I was with people I loved and trusted.
I have celebrated this awakening, I have ranted about the indecency.
It remains.
Sorry Bluey, for getting pissed and re-hashing old crap. I guess the fact that you bug me shows I care.
Funny you should start this thread just after...
Peace, Erik
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:21am PT
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Oh, and Ricky D was right! This picture belongs here!
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:56am PT
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My sister Cecelia worked the "Pillow Room" (Bad Trip room)at the Haight Free Clinic. She's probably got the goods on half you guys.
Best one-ledges above C4
Worst one- bathroom mirror.
Long ago...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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I haven't done TONS of acid, thank God. Just enough to come close to seeing God on several occasions.
Tripl7, read above. It was a play on words, dude. I wasn't implying that it was LITERALLY a way to see God, just a way to see things we normally cannot see, or choose not to see.
Lighten up, dude. F*#k, you people are rough. lately. Talk about cabin fever!
EDIT: Yeah, Joey, STAY AWAY FROM THE MIRRORS!!!! Wow! Not good!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Mar 19, 2010 - 01:51am PT
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Bluey- "It was a play on words."
OK dude, I understand that aspect of it.
blue- "you people are rough lately"
Well, just maybe, some of them "people" care about ya!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2010 - 02:12am PT
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Erik, I'm not sure if I understand your point. Elaborate.
Tripl7, it's cool. I just wanted clear things up.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 19, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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Some mirrors can be gateways, if your ready. If not, use them to shave.
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KitKat
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
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Mar 19, 2010 - 05:23am PT
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Hey Pate,
Remember New Orleans 89? SICK....
Did you make it to any of the Grateful Dawg shows? SICK...
Glad to see some fellow heads on here!
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Mar 19, 2010 - 10:44am PT
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Trip7~
Sorry if I offened you. What I read about Lonnie Frisbee was presented as an "expose" in an OC paper years ago. I thought the story was fascinating but can see where members of CC would be bummed and dispute and want to dispute it. You obviously know way more about bornagain megachurch stuff, and I'm OK with that. I was not knocking you or your faith even though I still believe what I read about Frisbee.
One question, how is it being the "neighbor of the beast". THAT was a joke, see, smiley face ;~) !!!
Laguna Beach was, from what I've read and from old timers I know, was kind of the epicenter. The Brotherhood, the Hippie Mafia, Rainbow Bridge....
And Bluering, I only mentioned "seeing god" cuz others had honed in on it. No need to spell it out, for me at least.
It's all good!
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Mar 19, 2010 - 11:10pm PT
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Road trips
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paper strips!
BUMP
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Mar 19, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
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Jefe: 110+ Panic, 80+ Dead, 50+ Phish, and double digit MMW, Grisman Quintet, Moe shows from 90 to 98. Hmm, some Blues Traveler shows, a dozen Allman Bros shows.You tell me.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Mar 19, 2010 - 11:32pm PT
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Went to that place inside my head for stretches of unknown time......only to snap out to a reality that was equally confusing and nonsensical.
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pyrosis
Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Mar 20, 2010 - 07:01am PT
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Word, Rox. Good post. :)
And to whoever said there wasn't any real stuff since Owsley.. Well, I guess they didn't know the Rainbow Family.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Mar 20, 2010 - 07:45am PT
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IT'S A DRUG ! Stop thinking your hallucinations were more than what reality offers.
I would argue the reverse since these same states can be reached naturally through meditation. All the drugs do is open up something that was already there, which is suppressed by the exigencies of thousands of years of recent survival and social normality.
Extraordinary sensations and perceptions are our evolutionary birthright. If they exist within our brain, they are real at least within the confines of our brain and maybe also on a more subtle plane that the drugs gives us access to. When they become great pieces of art, music, or poetry, they manefest in the outside physical world.
Labeling new sensations and thoughts as too far out to be real, is the true hallucination, the true opiate of the masses.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mar 20, 2010 - 01:05pm PT
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LSD is like Supertopo. You aren't seeing anything that's not really there, but you don't know if you can trust your feelings about what you do see. Each becomes food for thought and considering an alternate view
Unlike LSD, Supertopo allows you to do it everyday for long periods. There should be a law against this place!
Peace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2010 - 01:30pm PT
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I never hallucinated.
I wanted hallucinations. I wanted to see the dragon. Any dragon. Instead I saw that the woman next to me inhaled life, and exhaled perfume.
I agree Rocky, somewhat. You usually only hallucinate the first couple of times because it's so new and unexpected. This is a danger too and why I said earlier you should do your first trips with 'experienced' people (Have you ever been...experienced?---> Jimi).
Once you learn to understand and harness the DRUG, it is way more easy to control. You can almost control the voyage, take it places you want to go, as opposed to being sent on an unguided mission to who knows where.
That can be very dangerous. It is a super-powerful substance that really shouldn't be 'played' with, despite what we all did to initially experiment with it.
Before I gave it up I was quite proficient with controlling it. Of course I was doing it in controlled environments that I selected (isolated camping with a veteran/trusted tripping partner) and I knew what to expect, I knew where I wanted to go.
Amazing substance. I always found shrooms a little bit harder to control, maybe because of the inherent organic differences between batches, sources. It was a bit more hallucinogenic than LSD.
Of course almost all my LSD trips were off that white-blotter sheet we bought in Berkeley. I think, to this day, my buddy still has some doses in his freezer. It's kinda cool to be able to keep dosing the same batch. Results are always the same.
It was pretty good stuff. 3 or 4 hits sent you flyin'!!!! Very clean too. Prolly made by some under-grad chemist.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Mar 20, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
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I'll never forget the first time i did it. Two hits of really good liquid, raging house party, thirteen years old. I could see the vibrations coming out of the DJ's speakers. they were green. Or the 80 plus times after that. I once ate 13 hits through out the night. Everything turned to fractals. Or the time jumping off a bridge into a river at 7 in the AM. or finding a piece of road pavement in a river (same river, different time) at 6 in the am, being bummed out about human pollution, then turning it over to find a plant growing out of it. I think we realized that Mother Earth would take back over...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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being bummed out about human pollution, then turning it over to find a plant growing out of it. I think we realized that Mother Earth would take back over...
Doesn't that say it all.....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
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So bluey, you think the proper approach to environmental policy can be summed up by a "realization" someone had while on LSD? Sounds like you put a lot of "thought" into understanding the complexities of how nature works.
No.
As usual, you're extrapolating from what I said. Nothing should be taken seriously from a doser. It's all relative, man. It;s not science at all. It's a personal experience with no basis in fact.
It's a trip, riding a drug. It has to be interpreted carefully.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Mar 20, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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Bluey, well said about it all being relative. I think that time we found the pavement, we were 4 hits into a a heavy trip and walking up a river we spent our childhood swimming and playing in. Few years later and we were crawling up it like mud monsters, spun out of our gourds.
But finding the pavement and the realization that came with it: that is a typical example of the way your are able to interpret the world when your mind has been split open by heavy doses. i wouldn't say ingesting the actual chemical is healthy, but the thoughts and ideas that come with it can be amazing, even after the high is gone. i wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for all the LSD and mushrooms.
Like the Greatful Dead said..."wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world..."
on that note, I haven't tripped out in years, I feel that I got what I need from it. When I was in high school, I had no worries, no pressing issues wighing heavy on the back of my mind. These days, it all comes out, and I find that I am not able to relax and let go, dive into it. The last time was perfect, we drank some tea and bouldered till 3 in the am. I remember dancing on the top of a boulder to Frank Zappa singing "My guitar wants to kill you mamma"
and now, I think, I am finished.
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