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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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The trouble with a womans brain, you never now what is going to be a given output for a given input. Their gain is set so high the slightest drift in their plant and they enter the right hand quadrant.
Juan
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Well, my sense of humanity has gone down the drain
Behind every beautiful thing there's been some kind of pain
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Fluoride
Trad climber
Hollywood, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 03:51pm PT
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L,
love ya girl. The thrashing you got on Friday was out of line and what inspired me to start this thread.
Got your back lady!
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man."
(I Corinthians 11:8-9)
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
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WHY DOGS ARE BETTER THAN WOMEN
A dog's disposition stays the same all month long.
A dog's parents never visit.
A dog's time in the bathroom is confined to a quick drink.
Anyone can get a good-looking dog.
Dogs agree that you have to raise your voice to get your point across.
Dogs are excited by rough play.
Dogs aren't catty.
Dogs can appreciate excessive body hair.
Dogs can't talk.
Dogs don't borrow your shirts.
Dogs don't care if you use their shampoo.
Dogs don't cry.
Dogs don't expect you to call when you are running late.
Dogs don't hate their bodies.
Dogs don't let magazine articles guide their lives.
Dogs don't mind if you give their offspring away.
Dogs don't notice if you call them by another dog's name.
Dogs don't shop.
Dogs don't want to know about every other dog you ever had.
Dogs don't worry about germs.
Dogs enjoy heavy petting in public.
Dogs find you amusing when you're drunk.
Dogs have no use for flowers, cards, or jewelry.
Dogs like beer.
Dogs like it when you leave lots of things on the floor.
Dogs like to do their snooping outside as opposed to in your wallet, desk, and the back of your sock drawer.
Dogs love it when your friends come over.
Dogs love long car trips.
Dogs love red meat.
Dogs never criticize.
Dogs never expect gifts.
Dogs never need to examine the relationship.
Dogs never want foot-rubs.
Dogs seldom outlive you.
Dogs think you sing great.
Dogs understand that all animals smaller than dogs were made to be hunted.
Dogs understand that farts are funny.
Dogs understand that instincts are better than asking for directions.
Dogs will forgive you for playing with other dogs.
Dogs would rather have you buy them a hamburger dinner than a lobster one.
If a dog is gorgeous, other dogs don't hate it.
No dog ever bought a Kenny G or Hootie & the Blowfish album.
No dog ever put on 100 pounds after reaching adulthood.
The later you are, the more excited dogs are to see you
You never have to wait for a dog. They're ready to go 24 hours a day.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Juan, what up with the bible stuff....what does that have to do with ANYTHING ? Wait, no please don't answer that question.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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back to your cave, jdf!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Pate, No I hadn't noticed til today I guess. It irritates cause it makes my best friend look bad. Peace, lynne
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Locker, enough of the ugly photo-manipulations, already. They're gross, and don't belong on SuperTopo.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Well... I guess I should pipe in finally.
Quote from above: ^^ "most of the women on this site---don't complain about the incivilities dished out to them.
They just go away."
Yup^^^ that sums it up.
I have, in fact, been avoiding posting on this site. Erik has as well. Mostly due to one person in particular. Most as#@&%es can yell louder than me so I'm not really going to waste my time arguing with them.
I have a thick skin. I can usually take it. I've spent my whole life around curmudgeons and guys who don't candy-coat things. I don't mind if people disagree with me. I generally take name-calling with a grain of salt and I love the diversity of personalities here. I don't really want it to change. Guys will be guys and I feel huge amount of affection for this community.
What I cannot tolerate is random acts of vandalism. Stalking my comments. Shitting and pissing stupid and totally random viscous childish commentary all over any thread I dare get involved in or post. Totally ruining any thread they touch. So as long as it is going on- I am not really interested in contributing.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Well said. You sound like more than just a maid.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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So let's recap:
L: Do you really want nothing but guys posting here cause women have been chased away by calling us names?
Pate: Climbing is a men's club and always has been. Men have always outnumbered women and always will.
Pass the Piton Pete: Everyone calls everyone else names! To say that you are being called names because you are female is ludicrous. It's the internet - grow a thicker skin.
Dr. Sprok: it is just a weeding out process, we do not want to climb with girls, we depend on the belayer to be a woman who spits tabaccy and swears like a sailor.
Binks: Are women really too sensitive for this forum and have been driven off? I don't think so. I think it just does not interest them here as much as it does the men. Forums dominated by women tend to focus primarily on relationships.
Jaybro:
Followed by Wayno: "take a walk on the wild side..."
And S. Leeper: yES. bRING ON the womens.
Prod: Jaybro...HAhahahahhahahaahaahhaaha
Pate follow up: However, if you want to see who gets the real work done, I suggest paying attention to your guidebooks and reading who the FA's are. I'm going to take a wild guess that out of the 100+ guidebooks I own less than 1% of the routes had a female in the FA party.
And as for the question about wanting a men's club, I, for one, do not believe in the complete de-genderization and integration of all things. It's lame, and it leads to futile arguments that have been flogged here at ST many times about how women should be treated if they want to be playing on a level field.
Pate Follow up: Maybe there should be a separate tab for females?
Melissa:
Any time you suggest that there is misogyny here, many will shout you down and tell you that there is none.
Jaundefuca: The trouble with a womans brain, you never now what is going to be a given output for a given input. Their gain is set so high the slightest drift in their plant and they enter the right hand quadrant.
Jaundefuca: "For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
Jaundefuca: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Jaundefuca: WHY DOGS ARE BETTER THAN WOMEN
A dog's disposition stays the same all month long.
A dog's parents never visit.
A dog's time in the bathroom is confined to a quick drink.
Anyone can get a good-looking dog.
Dogs agree that you have to raise your voice to get your point across.
Dogs are excited by rough play.
Dogs aren't catty.
Dogs can appreciate excessive body hair.
Dogs can't talk.
Dogs don't borrow your shirts.
Dogs don't care if you use their shampoo.
Dogs don't cry.
Dogs don't expect you to call when you are running late.
Dogs don't hate their bodies.
Dogs don't let magazine articles guide their lives.
Dogs don't mind if you give their offspring away.
Dogs don't notice if you call them by another dog's name.
Dogs don't shop.
Dogs don't want to know about every other dog you ever had.
Dogs don't worry about germs.
Dogs enjoy heavy petting in public.
Dogs find you amusing wh
en you're drunk.
Dogs have no use for flowers, cards, or jewelry.
Dogs like beer.
Dogs like it when you leave lots of things on the floor.
Dogs like to do their snooping outside as opposed to in your wallet, desk, and the back of your sock drawer.
Dogs love it when your friends come over.
Dogs love long car trips.
Dogs love red meat.
Dogs never criticize.
Dogs never expect gifts.
Dogs never need to examine the relationship.
Dogs never want foot-rubs.
Dogs seldom outlive you.
Dogs think you sing great.
Dogs understand that all animals smaller than dogs were made to be hunted.
Dogs understand that farts are funny.
Dogs understand that instincts are better than asking for directions.
Dogs will forgive you for playing with other dogs.
Dogs would rather have you buy them a hamburger dinner than a lobster one.
If a dog is gorgeous, other dogs don't hate it.
No dog ever bought a Kenny G or Hootie & the Blowfish album.
No dog ever put on 100 pounds after reaching adulthood.
The later you are, the more excited dogs are to see you
You never have to wait for a dog. They're ready to go 24 hours a day.
Pate: Dogs don't nag either. Add that to the list.
Locker:
Did I miss anything?
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Did I miss anything?
Yeah, the ignore button.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Roger's list is damning.
And doesn't even mention the off-line harassment of SuperTopians who are identifiably female. Some of it is, by reliable reports, appalling. If you are subject to such ugliness, do three things:
1. Keep copies of everything.
2. Forward it to CMac.
3. If necessary, post it here and 'out' the basturd. Or send it to me and I'll do it for you, with your identifying information removed.
Yes, we're mostly grownups, and yes the world isn't always sugar and spice. That doesn't mean we have licence to be rude, gross, or harass others.
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L
climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
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Good synopsis Roger!
As we can all see, the Taco is NOT prejudiced towards women...it's the WORLD that is. Thank you for setting us gals straight, gentlemen...er...perhaps that's the wrong term...;-)
Jaybro...you're getting a lot of mileage with that photo of me. I want residuals!
Beth...luv you, too, GF! Will always be there for ya. Serious.
Crimpie...you're the best. The Taco is so much less without you. But it's all about baby-steps...baby-steps.
Taking baby-steps and carrying an AK-47....;-)
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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justthemaid - yes, well said. Being able to ignore the flames while
enjoying the threads is as easy as we choose it to be.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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We all, male and female, seem a lot more collegial when we only talk about climbing. Religion and politics, in particular, bring out the worst in us.
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L
climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
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I totally agree with you, Jim...except for that bolting some face or other thread...you know the one...peeps were pulling internet guns over that thing...;-)
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Yeah donini,
Ya gotta expect to be flamed on an OT post if it doesn't conform to someone's personal beliefs but I think we respect each other as climbers, regardless of gender and ability, for the most part.
Diss me on my climbing and I'm not gonna take it. (for the most part)
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