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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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There are deeeelightfully deeelusional people here on the Taco.
'Don't shoot my ass!...I'm just reaching for the salsa.' Potentially overheard around the virtual campfire...
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
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Thank you. My father's mother was born in the USA, and I have numerous second, third and more distant cousins in the US. One was even a representative in your congress.
Anyway, imagine the mayhem we're now going to have to deal with at Yellow Pines, during FaceLift. People taking potshots at #46 in the dead of night, and giving Crimpie the fright of her life on her way to the powder room. Lois whacking all the skwirrrls. coz and DR having at it. Firefight with tourists insisting on their constitutional right to do whatever they darn well please is a national park. Shootout at the Visitor Centre corral. The horror! The horror!
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dktem
Trad climber
Temecula
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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THE MAIN reason that the USA has not had an invasion during previous wars was ?????????
A. Mexico.
B. Canada.
C. Both of the Above
D. That's a big muthaf*#kin OCEAN you have there fellers!
DMT
All of the above plus an industrial capacity far larger than all of our enemies combined.
Seriously, do you really believe that the Nazi's stayed away only because they knew all them Americans had shotguns in their houses?
Ask an infantry platoon leader what firepower he has at his disposal. And that's just a platoon leader. And that's just the infantry.
"But Mein Führer, we cannot invade Amerika -- our tanks would be helpless against their hunting rifles!"
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dktem
Trad climber
Temecula
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:31pm PT
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That picture is more of a deterrent than a Russian winter.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
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dmt it is true. watch inglorious basterds. it was the rednecks that scared dem nazees
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
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Seriously, do you really believe that the Nazi's stayed away only because they knew all them Americans had shotguns in their houses?
I don't know of any historical references by the Germans, but Yamamoto discussed this in Japan and gave it as a reason why any invasion of the mainland or Hawaii would fail.
It is a bit funny how many are getting their panties in a wad over this when all it does is make existing CA state law applicable in the parks.
For what it's worth there aren't that many in Ca with CCWPs and in states where they have plenty of them the only major effect has been that violent crime rates have dropped like crazy.
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apogee
climber
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:46pm PT
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"Starting today you can pack heat in Nat'l Parks!"
Lame. Really feckin' lame.
What's even more aggravating and pathetic was the sneaky way this was included in the legislative process.
I try to constrain my ad hominems, but there really are a bunch of dumbass gun-totin' redneck idjuts out there.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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hey there say, all, everyone covers nearly everthing, but this:
so then, the only thing i quess that i can add here, will BE this:
at least ONE parent better have a continual good eye on young kids, when having a family-outing now, because its a sad-state-affairs as to gun-accidents going down, by young kids picking up a gun left where it ought not to be...
parents best be taking extra care now in these new situations... if you've all seen how careless some campers are, and disorganized, you know what i mean...
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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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after the first couple of sentences... I became sickened...
This is what is wrong with american poitics, righ here:
"Visitors now can pack heat in any national park from Gates of the Arctic to Everglades, provided they comply with the firearms laws of the park's home state, according to the new law that was passed as an amendment to credit-card legislation."
So a republican would not allow for a credit-card bill get passed without adding this "guns" thing in with it...
oh, wait.. I might be speaking out of turn... I have not verified the legislator who requested the guns amendment to be added.. But I think I know enough about the repuglicunt party to know who'dunnit!
more later - and If I'm proven wrong, then I will, going forward, check the source before automatically firing a shot across the bow of the relatively destructive (certainly, you have less rights as An American while they are in power) political party....
This should be another reason the repugs are wrong about everything "thread"...
Thanks for keeping an eye out flouride..
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:01pm PT
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Rednecks with shotguns.....most overrated "tough guys" out there are fat rednecks and drunk cowboys, using words like fat and drunk was kind of redundant, wasn't it.
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dktem
Trad climber
Temecula
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:06pm PT
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[...] but Yamamoto discussed this in Japan and gave it as a reason why any invasion of the mainland or Hawaii would fail.
[citation needed]
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:10pm PT
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I was tooled in J-Tree a few weeks back. He asked if I had any, marijuana, alcohol or fire arms. I guess he won't be asking the last question any more.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:15pm PT
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A Japanese invasion of the US mainland in 1941 - 42 would have been impossible, due to insurmountable problems with geography, resources and logistics. The US general staff may have had a plan to oppose an invasion, but it's doubtful that the Japanese even fantasized about it. They simply didn't have the capacity to even land and occupy a bridgehead, and they knew it. Had the Japanese somehow done so temporarily, individual citizens owning firearms in the occupation zone might have been a nuisance, but hardly one of any significance.
It's possible to imagine a Japanese invasion and occupation of one or more of the main islands of Hawaii. Again, not likely - had they wanted to try, they would have done so on 7/12/41. And again, a bunch of unorganized civilians with rifles, shotguns and handguns would have been an annoyance, and eventually might have amounted to something of a guerrilla force, but like the resistance movements in most European countries, would not have amounted to much in military terms.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
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But the following will still prolly occur:
A few years ago we were in the back of Jumbo Rocks next to some dude with a
giant Bago. His 10 year old is running around in the background. I look up from my joe in disbelief
- the little JD is silhouetted against the rising sun and he is toting long-barrelled heat!
Just then he proudly yells to dad, "Dad, I got one!"
Huh? I walk over to dad and, for me, politely suggest he reign in his
blossoming gangsta. Of course he gets in my face about "I'll be the judge
of my son's behavior!" Well, instead of helping him to his breakfast 'al dente' I walk
back to our site and tell Dave, "Let's roll!" We were already packed so we could get a
good spot in the lineup for Double Cross. Just a couple miles towards HVC we see
a Ranger in a cruiser coming. I flag him down. When I get to the "Dad, I got one!" line
I thought his eyes were going to explode.
Without a word of thanks he lit up the cruiser's tires like it was the Winternationals.
Oh, dad, what part of National Park didn't you understand?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
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reilly, how'd you know that kid didnt just nail a rapbolter with a BB gun?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:38pm PT
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How's that Obama taking all your guns working out?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:38pm PT
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Hawk,
If he'd only done that I'd have given him my S&W 500.
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apogee
climber
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:44pm PT
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I haven't read through all 180 ranting posts on this issue, but did anyone make note of the fact that the legislation that allowed guns to be carried in NP's pretty much only applied to those with Concealed Weapons Permits.
Still, I maintain it's pretty feckin' lame.
Side note: This thread has grown to 168 posts in less than one day- only guns and Lois are capable of generating such a rapid, heated response. Funny.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:46pm PT
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Not necessarily CCW's only.
So long as one is obeying the State's firearm laws. Open (non-concealed) carry is legal in lots of places, like California.
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