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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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to ranger jesse:
it'd be hard to believe that the NPS hasn't noticed the interest on supertopo over the ammon mcneely tasering incident. i personally believe the public is owed a statement on its behavior. tasering has gotten to be one of the ugliest things that police do.
i'm assuming yosemite rangers have been following the discussion here. rangers are known to do that with just about every blog page involving the activities they deal with, but they rarely involve themselves in discussions they cannot control.
tasering is a disturbing and violent response to anything except violent crime itself. i'm not a particular fan of BASE, but there's much climber-BASE crossover, and there seem to be many examples where jumpers' interests and enthusiasms can be accommodated--the new river gorge jump day an example.
jesse, i'm afraid i see you playing good cop to some bad cops. it would be refreshing to see some engagement of the BASE community by the NPS, discussion of behavior, park concerns, and some working towards resolution of an issue which probably won't be going away. without some forthright handling of this matter, we'll be looking forward to the escalation of a keystone cops comedy--except that more tasering could well make it a tragedy.
TB
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Good work. Thanks!
And post more photos please.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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What a report.
Thanks Jesse. Would love to see a lot more from you around here.
It's so good, and so crucial to keep the lines open to "The Man", ya know what I mean?
Thanks again!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jesse, nice work! On the rescues and the cleanup.
It's got to be disgusting work....good on ya!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Well done Jesse on the rescue and the clean up
You've gone down through 6feet of s(*T at C6?
And still more?
That's almost unbelievable.
+1 on what Tony Bird just said.
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james Colborn
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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Camp VI made me hate climbers.
Piss, sh#t, and trash. I got dry heaves when I got on the ledge, I would have puked for real had I not run out of water earlier in the day. There were at least 4 gatorade bottles shoved in the crack all filled with piss. That was just what was on top and visible. I couldn't sleep that night because my nose was filled with the odor of the ledge and I just could not shake it. We took as much garbage that would fit into our bag. F*#kers!
Who is doing this?
Thanks Jesse for taking the time and making the effort to clean that mess up. I owe you a beer or six.
James
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jstan
climber
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I think we all owe a debt of gratitude to the job Jesse and the National Park Service is doing. It would be very easy for NPS people, personally, to wish they saw fewer of us, and we would detect it immediately. Indeed many of us would prefer there were not quite so many.
It is very hard to be a gracious host when guests, occasionally unappreciative, keep coming without a break.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Good work Jesse -- both on the rescue and the clean-up.
And sympathy to the guy you pulled out. Can't have been much fun spending half a day, then a night, then part of a morning on a wall with a badly crushed femur. He may have been begging his partners to cut off his harness, but man, I'd have been begging them to untie me and throw me off.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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This is Public Service at it's best. I lodged at VI in the '80s, I can assure that none of that "history" is mine!
I wish the base thing could stay outta here, there are 2 threads on the topic already...
Brad
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Thanks for joining the fray again here, Jesse. Looks like quite a pull off the nose, but you look fresh in the hazmat suit and cheater stick...I mean sh-thook.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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We are now down 6 feet at least, and into historic trash from the '80s.
Historic Trash. Ha ha ha.
Better dredge it out before it gets designated an historic site.
Thanks for a job well done.
+2 for what Tony said.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Having never made it that far, I still want to share my appreciation to you and the others...excellent work all around!
Many climbers (like fishermen-er, anglers) are just f*king slobs.
oh ya more pictures!
Cheers,
DD
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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good to see what you guys are up to..been relying on the coffee as well
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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So sad that this thread got tainted so fast.
That sucks.
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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No one commenting here knows what went on.
Tony "i'm assuming" just makes you an ass.
No government offical that wants to keep their job would comment here.
Surprised Jesse even posted once on the other thread. Not a good call.
These threads of ranger bashing and speculation are a waste of their time for sure.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Someday, somehow, someone needs to rap that route with a super, high-pressure washer and REALLY blast it clean. 50+ years and thousands of ascents means plenty of bowel movemets, piss, vomit, blood, semen (it does get lonely up there...), food, beer, tampons, and everything else we climbers seem to "forget" along the way.
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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The Government has spoken. No BASE in Yosemite.
"jesse, i'm afraid i see you playing good cop to some bad cops. it would be refreshing to see some engagement of the BASE community by the NPS, discussion of behavior, park concerns, and some working towards resolution of an issue which probably won't be going away. without some forthright handling of this matter, we'll be looking forward to the escalation of a keystone cops comedy--except that more tasering could well make it a tragedy."
TB
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WBraun
climber
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MTucker
You're in the wrong fuking thread dude.
Get with it man.
You ain't got a fuking clue either by posting in this thread and ragging on Jesse who hasn't got anything to do with your problem.
Now git your ass over there and do your bitching there .....
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F10
Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
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Thank you
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