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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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do dilithium crystals contribute to global warming?
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 25, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
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Too bad Ed is gone from this thread, he was a valuable and educated contributor. The Chief personally threatened him, and he decided that was enough from that jack@ss.
Nice that chiloe sticks around. He's spun circles around Rick, and he seems smart enough to not bother with the dumb-assed turds on this thread.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
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Do not even dare to call me "fat" ever again.
 The Chief
The Chief, that is a personal threat and you should receive your walking papers for posting it.
You are pond scum, get used to it.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
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you never answered me, Chief.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Do not even dare to call me "fat" ever again.
So The Chief, what did you mean by that statement?
What if Ed called you fat again, then what?? Why should he "not even dare" call you fat?
You should be banned for saying that, and I expect you soon will be. The thousands of posts you make on this forum aren't worth the pennies that CMac might make from them because you put this whole place in the trash with each flatulence you make here.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
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Oh, you'll stomp your feet like the little child in your avitar and throw the finger?
Wow, what a big man you pose to be, but wear such little shoes.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
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Chef, in case you're too old to remember, I was asking why you're always obsessed with my lardoass and more recently, talking about my vulva.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
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Really Chiaf? Vulva? Creepy.
Maybe we should start discussing Chiaf's penis. Is it a midget too?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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Chiloe you posted a paper on high resolution reconstructions of CO2 variations in the industrial age. Is their any way of doing accurate high resolution reconstructions ( say decadal or even centennial in the case of earlier and earlier times) of the entire Holocene, or earlier in the most recent glacial epochs, that you know of? If not, how can you guys rule out short term spikes in CO2 from volcanism or intense oceanic outgassing since the atmospheric residence time of CO2 is in the neighborhood of 5-15 years?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
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Ron, you asking me to grow a pair of "Chhhhezus" is like me asking you to dumb-down your rhetoric.
The Chief, it makes sense that with your understanding of science you'd say that my posts here show that the AWG argument is flawed.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
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and Anita,,i thought a vulva was a European car?
edit DOH thats a volvo...hehehe
nope. and according to the Chef, it is frothing at the thought of FortMental or something equally was disturbing.
is this how a man talks to a lady? holy sh#t.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
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Soooo in reference to jeebusHbombz and his comment of me "hassling you" ,, did you feel "hassled" over my lil joke Anita??
no, I'm not too butthurt
but I am very offended re: Chief Chirpa's comments. how can one whine to a moderator on this site?!
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
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Chief would know about whining, eh Chef?
Chief is the expert at whining to forum mods and editing his posts a billion times.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Sep 25, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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CO2 has an individual lifetime in the atmosphere of about 5 years.
That's where the deniers stop thinking and declare victory.
The issue is the cycling thru the oceans bottleneck, since the oceans are also emitting CO2, as they absorb the new CO2. It takes 500+ years to return to near the previous equilibrium and much longer to reach complete equilibrium. Therefore, any extra CO2 put into the atmosphere by man can have 500+ years of impact.
We don't expect The Chief or Anderson to understand this but it's always a hoot to read their feeble responses.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Sep 25, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
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Chiloe you posted a paper on high resolution reconstructions of CO2 variations in the industrial age. Is their any way of doing accurate high resolution reconstructions ( say decadal or even centennial in the case of earlier and earlier times) of the entire Holocene, or earlier in the most recent glacial epochs, that you know of? If not, how can you guys rule out short term spikes in CO2 from volcanism or intense oceanic outgassing since the atmospheric residence time of CO2 is in the neighborhood of 5-15 years?
Two points:
1) The premise is wrong. As Fortmental alludes, the residence time of individual CO2 molecules is not relevant here, contrary to talking points you have read. The residence time of CO2 molecules in the atmosphere is just a few years, but as some molecules go into solution in the ocean, others are swapped back to the atmosphere. A net increase in CO2 tends to have long-lasting effects for both ocean and atmosphere. Look again at those Antarctic ice data. After CO2 rose by 100ppm in the past, it took thousands of years to drop back. Or look at the Keeling curve, modern industrial CO2 levels grow higher each year, they are not being "residenced" out in our lifetimes.
2) Anything as huge as our current spike would jump out in ice core records. The Vostok/Dome C CO2 series has a resolution around 50 years going back through the Holocene.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Sep 25, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
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while you guys are digging up all this science mumbo jumbo, I did some research of my own and came upon a pic of Chef at his other part time job, sizzling shet up.
I wonder if this hot move contributed to GW?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Sep 25, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
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Isn't it true that the deeper the Antarctic ice core (say before 1850 or so), the less the resolution in amplitude and frequency in CO2 reconstructions, Chiloe? Isn't it also true that plant stomata data show quite a lot more variability over the Holocene period with short duration spikes as high as 400 ppm ?
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010EGUGA..12.2196V
This link references a number of publications supporting the past variability of atmospheric CO2 content and the limitations of Antarctic ice cores in detecting short term and/or high frequency changes.
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