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command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:01am PT
Yes we have. Noticed how you climate fanatics with your fantasy of man made
global warming are terrible at posting anything half-way decent
to sway others to join you.

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Sep 25, 2013 - 07:24am PT
No you wouldn't Anita cus your lardoass (that you conveniently always leave out of your photos) will take what ever it gets. I hear that sweaty bald headed old fart Gary knocking on your door as well.

what is a lardoass?
if you'd quit being a wuss and accept my peace offering (ie: friend request on FB), you'd get to see more pics of my 'lardoass' which I inconveniently showcase all over my page. unless you want me to post here and kill the thread?

it's a shame going back to grade school has not taught you any manners or new insults. and judging by pics, you and Gary have similar levels of scalpular accoutrements, or something.
you need a hug, Chief. here you go! *hug*
dirtbag

climber
Sep 25, 2013 - 10:01am PT
Ch-Ch-Ch-Chiaf!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Sep 25, 2013 - 10:04am PT
Excellent new post on Realclimate this morning by oceanographer Stefan Rahmstorf on What ocean heating reveals about global warming. I'll quote a few excerpts that bear directly on discussions we've seen here (but Rahmstorf's whole post is accessible and worth reading):

The increase in the amount of heat in the oceans amounts to 17 x 10^22 Joules over the last 30 years. That is so much energy it is equivalent to exploding a Hiroshima bomb every second in the ocean for thirty years.

We see two very interesting things.

First: Roughly two thirds of the warming since 1980 occurred in the upper ocean. The heat content of the upper layer has gone up twice as much as in the lower layer (700 – 2000 m). The average temperature of the upper layer has increased more than three times as much as the lower (because the upper layer is only 700 m thick, and the lower one 1300 m). That is not surprising, as after all the ocean is heated from above and it takes time for the heat to penetrate deeper.

Second: In the last ten years the upper layer has warmed more slowly than before. In spite of this the temperature still is changing as rapidly there as in the lower layer. This recent slower warming in the upper ocean is closely related to the slower warming of the global surface temperature, because the temperature of the overlaying atmosphere is strongly coupled to the temperature of the ocean surface.

That the heat absorption of the ocean as a whole (at least to 2000 m) has not significantly slowed makes it clear that the reduced warming of the upper layer is not (at least not much) due to decreasing heating from above, but rather mostly due to greater heat loss to lower down: through the 700 m level, from the upper to the lower layer. (The transition from solar maximum to solar minimum probably also contributed a small part as planetary heat absorption decreased by about 15%, Abraham, et al., 2013). It is difficult to establish the exact mechanism for this stronger heat flux to deeper water, given the diverse internal variability in the oceans.

Completely independently of this oceanographic data, a simple correlation analysis (Foster and Rahmstorf ERL 2011) showed that the flatter warming trend [in air temperatures] of the last 10 years was mostly a result of natural variability, namely the recently more frequent appearance of cold La Niña events in the tropical Pacific and a small contribution from decreasing solar activity. The effect of La Niña can be seen directly in the following figure, without any statistical analysis. It shows the annual values of the global temperature with El Niño periods highlighted in red and La Niña periods in blue.

One highlight of Rahmstorf's post is a straightforward explanation for how wind (e.g., strengthened trade winds associated with La Nina) can cool the upper layers of the ocean at the same time it warms the lower. I won't try to reproduce the explanation and diagram here, but encourage folks to check it out for themselves.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 25, 2013 - 11:16am PT
The Chief:
No you wouldn't Anita cus your lardoass (that you conveniently always leave out of your photos) will take what ever it gets.

The Buddha:
All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 25, 2013 - 11:35am PT
The Chief:
I see a twosome on the horizon for you. Bet you are frothing at the .... vulva.

The Buddha:
“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Sep 25, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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that's my line, buddy, errr huff n' chuff LOL

Gary: I am used to Chef's personal attacks on my vulva and ass. I don't know why he is so obsessed with either. kind of creepy, don't you think?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 25, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
anita, The Chief can only insult himself. Perhaps someday he'll realize that his anger does not travel in the direction he imagines.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Sep 25, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
kinda competes with the time roxjox was going to turn my dick black all the way from Idahole.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 25, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Larry, thanks for the Rahmstorf excerpts. Interesting stuff.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
LOL, 2007 was the 2nd lowest extent ever recorded. Cherry pick much Anderson?

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Now compare to the 2000's average, dumbass.

One year, does not make a trend.

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
Please elaborate, Anderson. This should be hilarious.

Tell us why this graph is 100% horse nuggets.

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
So, make up your own chart. It's purpose is to show the lowest 3 years, the average of 80's, 90's, 2000's and this year.

It does show 2011, and 2012, so you can't say it doesn't show the previous 4 years.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Get in there and do it Anderson, nothing preventing you but your own ignorance.

Here, I'll give you some help:

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
Thanks, that pretty much sums up the denial approach.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
^^ word play ^^
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
We don't use the same meaning, hence it's word play.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:54pm PT

Hey Monolith,this about sums it all up.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 25, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
Sure, 15 years of flatlining. Got it.

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