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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
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^^^Allow the Forest Service to install 50 caliber chain guns in the noses of their Helis - blast a few drones out of the sky and maybe the Facebook crowd will get a clue.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:57pm PT
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Only the queen bee herself should be up in the fire zone.
But seriously, I think it might already be a felony.
Well maybe not. This is Utah
A 5-mile flight restriction is in place over the Saddle Fire. Violators could face misdemeanor charges for piloting the drones in an unauthorized zone, and felony charges are possible if a drone collides with firefighting equipment.
A step up in penalties is clearly in order.
California - Senate Bills 167 and 168.
This bill would make it unlawful to knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly operate an unmanned aircraft or unmanned aircraft system, as defined, in a manner that prevents or delays the extinguishment of a fire, or in any way interferes with the efforts of firefighters to control, contain, or extinguish a fire. The bill would make a violation of this prohibition punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed 6 months, by a fine not to exceed $5,000, or by both that fine and imprisonment. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB167
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 26, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
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Drones around fires are seriously dangerous. Virtually all fire fighting aircraft fly low enough to hit one.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jun 26, 2016 - 04:46pm PT
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Suck one into the intake of a jet engine and it's all she wrote.
+1, Reilly.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 23, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
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No pics. It's a bad one @ 11,000 acres. Mandatory evac for 300 people.
Started by the CA14, and headed south. Very smoky in LA today
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 23, 2016 - 03:16pm PT
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106 degrees. / winds to 25mph / 10% humidity
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Jul 23, 2016 - 08:52pm PT
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[photo[photo[photoid=464908]id=464907]id=464906]
From my backyard, the Sand fire
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 23, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
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I have ties near the area, so I fixed these up rwedgee. That last looks suspiciously like the Station fire.
EDIT: you fixed 'em
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Jul 23, 2016 - 08:59pm PT
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 23, 2016 - 08:59pm PT
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hey there say, zbrown and all... oh my...
say, prayers this evening for you all...
oh my... :(
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Jul 23, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
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It's pretty much died down now but the wind shifted earlier and brought it into some brush and house I think it got ~10 houses. Sand Canyon is a narrow 2 lane road and a bunch of looky loos parked all over the road on both sides blocking the strike crews from getting in. WTF ?
First time I've seen a jet doing air drops. We usually have the Dehavilland Scoopers which would have been more effective as there's a lake they scoop from 4 minutes away giving a FAST turn around times on drops. They can go low and slow but the jet can't so the drops were fairly ineffective from a half mile high every 40 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPedHJNQNUM
as opposed to that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZkV64GJihA
It's comparable to the A10 Warthog, it does what it does real good.
They ROCK !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYHvfYGF_7Y
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Jelf
climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:13am PT
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Below is a link for an enhanced Google map centered on the Sand Fire. This map has a number of GIS (Geographical Information System) overlay layers that can be turned on/off. Each time you open the map the most recent data hosted on the GIS servers is displayed. This GIS data is coming straight from servers operated by various government agencies including GeoMAC and NOAA.
Google + GIS fire map
Long link:
[url="https://mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=34.368377,-118.346100&z=11&t=h,Fire_perimeter,MODIS_from_GeoMAC&q=https://propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire_3.txt"]https://mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=34.368377,-118.346100&z=11&t=h,Fire_perimeter,MODIS_from_GeoMAC&q=https://propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire_3.txt[/url]
Short link:
http://bit.ly/2a7Bve8
The 'top' layer is clickable and will display all the GIS attribute data for the thing that you clicked. When you open the map one of the satellite hotspot layers is on top. If the GIS server does not respond it is likely swamped with requests for data.
For tips on using the map please click "About this map" in the upper left corner. This ‘About’ page also has important information to help you understand the satellite hotspot data! If you want to understand the satellite data, please read the disclaimers.
I am the developer of Gmap4 which is an enhanced Google map viewer that is displaying the map. This project is a public service and part of my way to 'pay it forward'.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:23am PT
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Thanks Jeff.
BTW there was another fire at Camp Pendleton yesterday.
I wonder what happens when a wildfire burns right down to the San Onofre Nuclear Plant and it's 3.6 Million pounds of spent fuel?
Interesting to ponder, though an earthquake is probably a much bigger threat.
But a repository for waste from nuclear sites across the country including San Onofre does not exist.
"Frankly, it should have been solved by now but it hasn't been," said John Kotek, acting assistant secretary for the Office of Nuclear Energy at the Department of Energy.
1/3 in "dry cask storage" + 2/3 in "wet storage" pools
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jstan
climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 11:06pm PT
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At 11AM Sunday I used 14 going North. Wind out of the south has gotten much stronger since.
When I was on 14 there seemed little threat to 14. Fire had reached the guard rails on 14 over
perhaps a 200 yard interval. Other than that there was however a remaining unburned margin
particularly north of the starting point. The river is a substantial barrier. The hills to the SE are
burned over a very large area. Winds out of the N will threaten Rt 210 near Pasadena. Strong winds
out of the SE might threaten areas W of 14.
I figured it was reasonable to use 14 in the AM before the usual afternoon winds. Now, perhaps
problematic. In this wind if I had to reverse my course I might use US 10 or 134 and 101 to go from
JT to Santa Barbara. A traverse at 2AM maybe.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:24am PT
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Zbrown,
Nothing would happen if a fire burned down to the spent fuel, there is not any fuel to burn anywhere near those containers. In fact it would probably make a good safe area in the case of a massive wildfire in that area.
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