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Jimmy Russells
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 01:58pm PT
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Baby Jesus facepalms everytime bluering posts.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
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"Oh father! Save me from my friends."
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 23, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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We Don't Have To LIKE Them; We Just HAVE To Love Them!
Jus Start'in
BB
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 23, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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Baby Jesus facepalms everytime bluering posts.
Wow! that is profound, man. You are so clever.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 23, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
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I have to agree with Dr. F.
I'm quiet and leave people alone until they tell me that I have to pray to their god, or I can't buy beer on Sunday because it's god's day, or I can't marry someone unless it's condoned by their bible. These are all very real problems that I have to deal with regularly, especially the blue laws.
Christians, and all of the other religious loonies out there, are constantly trying to shove their religion down everyone else's throats.
If you want to base your life on bizarre ancient mythology, then knock yourself out. But don't try to force-feed me with your kooky mythology.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 11:34am PT
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Well, I agree. I dislike having religious views constantly foisted upon me. Much like other views that I'm told I have to accept, and if I don't accept them that I'm intolerant or "hateful" for not accepting them.
Religion is a personal matter, much like other issues.
Can someone tell me why celebrating "the atheist life" on a public climbing forum is less offensive as someone celebrating a love of Christ?
God bless y'all...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 24, 2012 - 11:42am PT
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Because people use religion to kill, murder and maim to a much higher degree these days than athiests. Sure, athiests had a few dictators, but that was in a time before the internet.
Every, I dunno, minute? Every minute a child dies under the age of 5 in poverty and despair? How many miles from the reach of what would be considered an evangelical savior?
God works in mysterious ways. Or he is an as#@&%e. But the idea that I should pray for my SAT test when that sh#t is going on seems silly.
HOWEVER - that is just my opinion. I know many deeply spiritual people and they pick up on a frequency that I can't seem to tune into. The idea that spirituality can't be measured so doesn't exist I think is just because a beaker hasn't yet been invented - just like a monkey can't 'get' algebra, I'll bet humanity can't 'get' the subtle cosmic forces at play in energy and our own minds.
But that doesn't mean that there was a dude who was swallowed by a fish and the earth is 10,000 years old.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 24, 2012 - 11:52am PT
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Why ya all arguin?
Git to work, the country is falling apart and falling off the cliff.
Everything tastes like sh!t too.
We can't eat nuts and bolts ya slackers .....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 11:57am PT
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Interesting, Greg.
Some people seek religion only for comfort, and I've always been wary of those people.
Others find religion and explore it, eventually discovering they were always there, they had just walked away from it.
I can not describe it any better than that. It's difficult and way to profound to put into words. I also hate getting all preachy, but even with your eyes closed, you will come into contact with God (or Allah, or whatever). It's just a matter of accepting it, or discarding it as trivial.
Someone like Jennie probably could put it better...
EDIT: Or Werner. Hehe...
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
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Rev. bluering, you believe, undeniably. But you are being rude. This thread is called "I Like the Atheist Life", so why do you post here if you don't like it? Atheists are often people that made bad experiences with belief, maybe theirs, maybe that of others. You should try to understand this.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
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Rev. bluering, you believe, undeniably. But you are being rude. This thread is called "I Like the Atheist Life", so why do you post here if you don't like it? Atheists are often people that made bad experiences with belief, maybe theirs, maybe that of others. You should try to understand this.
Maybe so. I'm just adding my $.02 to the discourse. Capisce?
Should I disallow crazy atheists from commenting on religious threads? I couldn't, and I wouldn't.
Stay safe 1st Amendment!
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:10pm PT
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Si, la gapish
I don't know about the "religious threads" you're talking about, but
do you mean you are taking revenge on this here topic for something you disagree with on an other topic? That would sound weird, don't you think?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
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Si, la gapish
I don't know about the "religious threads" you're talking about, but
do you mean you are taking revenge on this here topic for something you disagree with on an other topic? That would sound weird, don't you think?
Of course...
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:16pm PT
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Well then I hope you stop
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
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It's a curious psychological thing that people feel threatened by those who do not believe as they believe (and act), as though someone else has some direct effect on reality, or is encroaching on their life in some meaningful, negative way.
For example, I've always wondered why folk get so bent about gay people being gay and doing what they do - and lest we straight peeps stop them, they will cheapen marriage, corrupt the unwitting and draw the weak directly into buggery and bushwhacking.
I don't see it. Never once when I've been with a girl have I felt like I was being done out of something or was in some way influenced by what the gay folks were doing down the road. And not once in all the times I have gone into a zendo have I had my experience compromised by an atheist. When people are difficult or insistent (fanatics) it usually has little to do with their position and everything to do with their basic makeup.
When it comes right down to it, most of us are trying to get a handle on what is real for us. It's just that it might not be exactly the same thing, person to person. I sort of like the diversity.
JL
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
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Ah, quit being so blatantly naive, John.
It's a societal affair. A cultural thing. A slippery slope.
And the cultural Marxists like it that way. Break down the family, then society, and then the country.
But I keep asking, "what then, what do they want?"
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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ah the marxists... : the easiest is to corrupt (to break down) the person, the individuals, and then everything breaks down, of course
the bourgeoisie can be either marxist, anti marxist, whatever
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
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the bourgeoisie can be either marxist, anti marxist, whatever
or free, independent, and unburdened by gov't.
Largo probably has a big taste of state Marxism down there in Venezuela. They always start small. And the cancer grows.
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
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I see, bluering, you must be some sort of a national socialist then.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
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Nationalist, maybe, but you can keep the Socialist part. That don't taste too good...
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