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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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monolith
climber
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Since you are in denial mode K-Man:
Watch this only if you still have room on your denial meter:
The Day The Illuminati Pushed Their Luck To Far..
I like the point where he says that if there is pulverized concrete present that you should not even bother looking at fire as a cause for the disaster. (By the way, that's from the National Standards Guide for investigating fires.)
Go back and look at the beginning of the failure of the WTC Towers. Do happen to see any pulverized concrete?
Take a look at the pictures of the WTC Towers as they begin to collapse. You see lots of pulverized concrete, even before there's any chance of it being created by floors smashing into themselves.
Another lie. The first signs of the collapse was the exterior collumns bowing inward.
Where's the audio of this concrete being pulverized?
And like I said, the concrete was in the floors. Do ya think the NWO put bombs in the floors?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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mono, I guess you see in this quote from me where I'm claiming to have audio of bombs pulverizing the concrete?
Please highlight the exact text.
Why would any link possibly convince you?
Now, who said this, and to what did it reference?
Oh, the irony.
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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only on supertopo would a thread like this get 1200 posts.
GO
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monolith
climber
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That's why I'm asking you for the audio, K-Man.
You are implying that bombs pulverized the concrete right?
Or are you one of those energy weapons guys?
Audio of the bombs pulverizing the concrete would convince just about everyone K-Man.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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The Wikipedia page RE Fresh Kills:
Post-9/11
After the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Fresh Kills was temporarily in use as a sorting ground for roughly one third of the rubble from Ground Zero. More than 1600 personal effects were retrieved during this time. About two million tons of material obtained from Ground Zero was taken to the landfill for sorting.[6] Thousands of detectives and forensic evidence specialists worked for over 1.7 million hours at Fresh Kills Landfill to try to recover remnants of the people killed in the attacks. A final count of 4,257 human remains were recovered, and from those, 300 people were identified. A memorial is being built to honor those that were not able to be identified in all of the debris from the attack.[7] The remaining debris was buried in a 40-acre (160,000 m2) portion of the landfill; it is highly likely that this debris still contains fragmentary human remains.[8]
Thanks for pointing that out monolith, certainly interesting and peregrinate.
Now about that FBI explosion tests, care to help me find a reference?
And Locker, I think your blue butt plug is restricting the blood flow to your brain--that's because your brain is apparently located in your a*#.
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monolith
climber
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It's funny you are learning this now.
Really, you can't find what the FBI and BATF did at Fresh Kills beyond body recovery?
Did you know, that all the steel showing anything abnormal was sent to a hanger at JFK?
Don't ya think that steel with blast damage would be abnormal?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Did you know, that all the steel showing anything abnormal was sent to a hanger at JFK?
All the steel showing anything abnormal, eh?
monolith, it seems you can't stop lying. Dude, you should really see somebody about that.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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I worked with the mentally ill for 7 years
it must've been good training for posting in this frickin place
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monolith
climber
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That's hilarious K-Man. It's easily found.
Or are you saying the FBI and BATF was in on the conspiracy as well?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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I worked with the mentally ill for 7 years before I realized that a nut, is a nut, is a nut, no matter what counseling or medications were given...
Then I got frustrated and quit...
you forgot to add....but i found that i missed it so i hang out here ......
:)
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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7-Year Itch needs a scratch!
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Fireman Eric Lawyer on his website has done a great job in pulling together the evidence in a logical manner and helping to summarize the findings . . .
http://firefightersfor911truth.org
Here is a great study he links too . . .
This work is dedicated to Chief of Department Peter J. Ganci Jr. and his 342 fellow F.D.N.Y. members killed in action while trying to save others Summary of Evidence of Controlled Demolition at the World Trade Center (Expansive citations below)
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/revised2summary_of_evidence1.pdf
This is a 55 page study and has many sources and resources of evidence I have never seen before that are extremely eye-opening for any one that really is interested in knowing the truth of what happened on 9-11. A thorough job is done.
Once again we have the means, motive, and opportunity evidence.
We have the eye-witness evidence, the visual evidence, the audio evidence, and the physical evidence.
To dismiss any of this with ad hominem attacks and the wave of your hand, then you are a completely dishonest observer, and you have your head deeply buried in the sand of denial.
All of it together is an overwhelming body of evidence that invalidates the US government OCT. 9-11 did not happen the way we have been told it happened in the 9-11 Commission Report.
The truth is knowable if you want to know it.
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raymond phule
climber
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According to some, there are clearly explosions recorded a few fractions of a second before the building begins to collapse.
And according to some there weren't.
Regarding eyewitness. Why do you seem to ignore the eyewitness that saw the plane that crashed into pentagon? Some people saw a plane. Not a single person saw a missile.
Do someone except, klimmer, rokjox and probably k-man hear the explosions in the video klimmer posted? Rokjox, you seemed to just ignore my comment in regard to the timming of the supposed explosions. Why?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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I do not ignore the eye witnesses who saw a plane hit the Pentagon.
I am curious as to why the physical evidence does not match these eye-witness accounts, and that is why I would like for the Pentagon to release the videos that they have of the event.
There are surveillance cameras lining the side of the Pentagon that was hit. There are reports, and a subsequent FOIA request, of FBI agents confiscating tapes that might show what happened. Why are these secret?
In my Universe, a plane does not vaporize upon impact, yet still have enough inertia in the vaporized parts to carry on and make large, symmetric holes in thick concrete walls.
I guess I'm just a curious cat who doesn't swallow the explanation given to me.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Locker! You mean to tell me you got sh#t for brains?
PS: Klimmer, a most excellent and civil post.
The only one who tries to equal your forthrightness on the Believer side is
Riley. Too bad his heavily slanted beliefs skew his ability to see objectively the things you have posted.
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raymond phule
climber
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From klimmers link
"Structural steel begins to melt at 1510 degrees Celsius (2750 degrees Fahrenheit)
and only if that temperature is maintained over a long period of time. Burning jet fuel
can only reach temperatures of 1120 degrees Celsius and decreases in temperature if
the fuel feeding it is being depleted (as was the case in the Twin Towers). Therefore,
the temperature from the burning jet fuel (commonly cited as the reason for
weakening the structure) could not possibly have melted the steel-reinforced
columns. "
Is it really that difficult to understand that steel don't need to melt to be weakend?
"‗The biggest and most obvious problem that I see is the
source of the enormous amount of very fine dust that we see
generated during the collapse... Where does the energy come
from to turn all this reinforced concrete into dust?‘‖ "
Is it possibly to even read this without starting to laugh? How stupid can a human be?
"Concrete and other building materials were literally reduced to
powder before hitting the ground, which is consistent only with
demolition. If a building collapses due to fire or other hazards,
concrete and other heavy materials are not reduced to powder."
Hahaha
Great comedy link Klimmer.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Now Locker, you are making me laugh! Good thing, good buddy.
before you SWALLOW...
it's NOT your brain...
It's a piece of SH!T...
This is also kind of funny. The thing I'm referring to swallowing is the 9-11 Commission Report. And here, Locker's calling it a piece of sh#t.
Now that is funny...
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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From klimmers link
"Structural steel begins to melt at 1510 degrees Celsius (2750 degrees Fahrenheit)
and only if that temperature is maintained over a long period of time. Burning jet fuel
can only reach temperatures of 1120 degrees Celsius and decreases in temperature if
the fuel feeding it is being depleted (as was the case in the Twin Towers). Therefore,
the temperature from the burning jet fuel (commonly cited as the reason for
weakening the structure) could not possibly have melted the steel-reinforced
columns. "
Is it really that difficult to understand that steel don't need to melt to be weakend?
"‗The biggest and most obvious problem that I see is the
source of the enormous amount of very fine dust that we see
generated during the collapse... Where does the energy come
from to turn all this reinforced concrete into dust?‘‖ "
Is it possibly to even read this without starting to laugh? How stupid can a human be?
"Concrete and other building materials were literally reduced to
powder before hitting the ground, which is consistent only with
demolition. If a building collapses due to fire or other hazards,
concrete and other heavy materials are not reduced to powder."
Hahaha
Great comedy link Klimmer.
the truly scary part is that klimmer teaches physics in high school....right klim?
i can see some of his 911 anniversary physics experiments now....on the plus side, his students probably have a gas learning BS from him.
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