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SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Tiffany/MGuzzy

Ok, I did some research and in Adobe Photoshop (which I have) there is a function to view image properties. If the image has GPS metadata this information would show up. I took 2 pics from the link you provided today and the GPS data shows as empty:( See screen capture I uploaded below...

SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
MGuzzy/Jeg

Can someone re-confirm the model? Jeg's comments indicate he just purchased. Looks like the models are from 08/09 and are no longer on the sony website as active models being sold. Just want to make certain we have the correct model. Would be a nice find to find out different model number and that it has built in GPS and wifi. If only............(sigh)

[EDIT]LAHiker has good idea. If we can find a picture Matt took with his camera say in the last few months that would be even better. I could check the meta data. If pic is found please PM me so I can respond and have picture sent direct. Thx

[EDIT] Thanks LAHiker
LAhiker

Social climber
Los Angeles
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
Thanks, SplitPants for compiling all that info and for your digital wizardry! I think it's an great idea to use metadata to get at the camera model and possible GPS capabilities. If the Sony Cybershot DSC S-750/S-780 models are no longer made, and Matt just got a new digital camera, it could be another type of camera.

Would Jill, Ron, or Tiffany have any pictures Matt made with the new camera? Might he have uploaded them somewhere? Sometimes even pictures that have been uploaded (if they haven't been manipulated in a program such as Photoshop) retain their metadata. Then, using the Adobe Photoshop function Splitpants used, or even just "Get Info" function on a Mac, one can find out what kind of camera it is and can see whether it has GPS, as she did with the other pictures.

BTW, I also want to thank HighTraverse and others for your logic, and for explaining things to us non-climbing folks.
jeg

Social climber
center valley,Pa
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
The camera was red. We are asking his friend who has the charging devices for the camera, if he can determine manufactor/model. He did not download any pictures while in Ca as he did not have a computer. He was planning to download the pictures when he returned to Pa and then send my husband the pictures he had taken during there climbs.
tdg119

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
I did not see any camera boxes at Matt's place. Drawer full of old cameras, but the disc was in a different location which led me to believe it was for the most recent one. Sorry for misleading anyone.

I did also look at the image properties for the pictures - they were taken with a different camera yet (Cybershot S950) but no GPS info.

My parents have all his CC bills; if necessary we can go through them to look for purchase.

No account existing with Sony using his Hotmail address.

PS. Unfortunately, I have not been able to figure a way into his Hotmail account - can't get past the seemingly easy security question for the life of me - and I'd have to jump through legal hoops to get anything from Microsoft. Makes these simple tasks that much more difficult.
SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
I updated the 1 page gear summary based on new picture of Axe and removed digital camera model and image. Once we have model confirmed I will add new image. We do know the camera is red.

Tx
Finn2302

Trad climber
Easton, pa
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
Again, I can't say enough about the amazing folks helping out here!!!

Here is a bit more information and my observations on Matt regarding his glasses, climbing experience and climbing partners.

On our last trip to the Gunks, Matt wore his glasses up in the car, then changed into his contacts just before we got there for climbing. He then switched back to glasses on the way home. I believe he had done this before as well on other trips. On this last trip, he and I spoke about contacts a little - I asked why he changed his, as I just leave mine in for a few weeks then change them out. I can't remember the why, but he was telling me that it didn't or wouldn't work for him - maybe the type he had?

Regarding Matt's experience on Hard Ice, his friend John can certainly give better information than me, but I do know that he has had a reasonable amount of experience on moderately difficult north east ice climbs (multi-pitch at Poke O..) I don't believe Matt led hard ice, but has followed many routes. Taking one axe it seems he planned on an alpine day.

Matt has significant trad climbing experience. He lead trad up to gunks 5.9 and sport to 5.11. I was recently using his guide book from the City of Rocks where he noted many sends in the 5.10 and 5.11 range.

I also believe that Matt has done several of the 50 classic climbs of North America - some of his other climbing pals might be able to give better details / specifics than me.

Matt is a strong energetic climber - always ready to go, but never reckless or even remotely reckless on the rope. He is always careful and calculated - high level focus.

Here is some other information that I haven't read much about - so I'll offer it up to the group think/effort in the hope that it helps find answers. Matt has from time to time picked up climbing partners on-line from places like Mountain Project. If he was in an area and wanted to do a bigger / more technical route - he would find a partner on-line and climb for the day with that person. He told me about a few epics / minor epics he'd had because of the lack of skill of some of these partners - despite what they claimed. It would not have suprised me at all if he had met someone on or off line to climb with during that period of time - particularly since he had no wheels. So it would have been a good deal for him to find someone on-line and maybe they picked him up on the 17th for an early alpine start.

I also believe that Matt certainly would have hitchhiked to get to a trail head if needed (in this lack of car situation he was in) or just asked someone in town he had been talking with for a ride - or another person at his camp site area.

As you can see by Matt's blog that was posted - he was always going. He was the kind of guy that would get up and do a 6 mile cross-country ski (solo) before everyone else had finished their morning coffee. He'd then go off and do something for the day with the group.. More skiing or climbing.

I would just like to say thanks again for everyone's help - the caring and energy is amazing!!
 Greg

SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
Finn2301 +10!!!

Thank you so much for the information. Very insightful. Do you think it might be of any value to comb through the forum posts on the mountain project site? If so we can do that!

Tx again.
Jilli

Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
Matt has from time to time picked up climbing partners on-line from places like Mountain Project.

Wasn't it shared by someone else (Ron/Tiffany) that Matt had made a comment on a thread on Mountain Project on July 16th about water/dehydration (?) OR was that Summit Post?

EDIT: because if so that would be easy to search for other users that day i would think
SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
Jilli

The post you mention was on another site called summitpost

Here is the link to Matts post:
http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=408661&type=vote_comments&discussion_id=473067#473067
Jilli

Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
Btw, I am working on finding out about the missing gear - possibility of it being sold at nearby shop (Mammoth Mtneering Gear Exchange, Bishop CA) where my friend works. Although it is highly unlikely to find any record of this gear (since someone smart would sell it quick online IF this was the case), it is worth to tick off the list in the case this was foul play. (or in the case where the gear was stolen from campsite during the week after 17th after Matt went missing- which would show he in fact was only going on a local day hike...)

Here's what I've got so far then (thanks to SplitPants/MGuzzy/jeg/(Tony):

Mountain Hardwear South Col 70liter

La Sportiva Nepal Extreme's - size 11.5/12 - yellow (purchased Spring 2013)

Petzl Quark Ice Axe (one of his two), no leash, silver with a bit of orange
PIC: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2195321&tn=1060

Black Diamond crampons - horizontal front points, Step in, black & yellow strap. Approx.10years old, quite used.

Any other details to add?

Cheers.

Finn2302

Trad climber
Easton, pa
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
Certainly worth pulling the partner forum threads! It was the first thing I did when I got the call from the police officer reporting him missing - I checked mountain project and I think some others like summit post and rock climbing.com. I didn't have as much information as is available now, so maybe we should recheck everything. In fact, at the time, I didn't even know the information about Lyell or Ritter - just that Matt had been getting his car fixed in the Mammoth area.

One challenge is that some of the posts offer the need for a partner, but then you can call them - so there might not be a good clear email string.

 Greg
Jilli

Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
REPOSTING THIS as I noticed no one else picked up on this crucial piece of information Ron/Tiffany shared........ (I don't know what this means but I believe it says a lot):

tdg119
"
Aug 24, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
I debated posting this, worried it'd be construed wrong, but decided to. When searching Matt's house, there was a notebook. Amongst it were some half scribbled notes that were started but not finished (with the exception of one I found regarding a guide book exchange; found both draft and full letter on that one.)

This one is straightforward. What I don't know is his habits with this note. Still, in my mind, it seems important he's thought it out if nothing else. I see it as something he'd leave on/in his car or campsite if planning something long and/or dangerous.

Just more speculation, I know, but I felt compelled to share.

http://www.supertopo.com/photos/19/62/317745_24500_L.jpg

Credit: tdg119
"

Klimmer

Mountain climber
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
On our last trip to the Gunks, Matt wore his glasses up in the car, then changed into his contacts just before we got there for climbing. He then switched back to glasses on the way home. I believe he had done this before as well on other trips. On this last trip, he and I spoke about contacts a little - I asked why he changed his, as I just leave mine in for a few weeks then change them out. I can't remember the why, but he was telling me that it didn't or wouldn't work for him - maybe the type he had?


Greg Thanks.

Concerning the glasses. We don't have them the PD does. So we aren't gonna touch them. No worries there.

I know it's only been since Friday that the eye-glasses were found and now its Sunday, but I have mild ADHD. I hate waiting to know. Seems we could know quickly. Sometimes waiting sucks. It's kinda like watching Silly Putty change shape. Have you ever done that? Man that's slow going and cruel punishment. Sometimes thinking out-loud helps pass the time. At least for me. That's one of the things I like about ST, the ability to think things through together and also independently too.

Anyway, it's a good time to learn about eye-sight and eye-glasses I figure. With nearsighted vision (Myopia -- Nearsightedness) and Astigmatism both together, and each eye a little different than the other, and in the right eye astigmatism going horizontal, and in the left eye astigmatism going vertical, lenses can take on their own peculiar shapes and traits. And obviously each lense is gonna be different from the other.


Found some good articles with embedded short videos:


Myopia (Nearsightedness)
By Gretchyn Bailey
http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/myopia.htm

Hyperopia (Farsightedness)
By Gretchyn Bailey; reviewed by Vance Thompson, MD;
Flash illustration by Stephen Bagi
http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/hyperopia.htm

Astigmatism
By Gary Heiting, OD
http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/astigmatism.htm



I learned a lot.


Edit:


How to read eyeglass prescriptions:

http://www.allaboutvision.com/eyeglasses/eyeglass-prescription.htm




tdg119 ...

Aug 24, 2013 - 06:57am PT
Here's Matt's eye RXs from 2-1-13

Glasses:
OD - 2.75 - 0.75 x 175
OS - 2.75 - 1.00 x 005

Contacts:
OD - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 0.75 x 180
OS - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 1.25 x 180
Acuvue Oasys for Astigmatism

Hope that means something; my eyes are good so it's Greek to me.
kenish

Gym climber
Orange County, CA
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
The GPS location of a photo is called a "geotag". When previewing photo files in Windows 7 (and possibly earlier Windows), File Explorer shows all the metadata including the lat/lon (if present). Windows Photo Viewer does the same.

A geotag unit *records* the position but there's no trail of the camera's location without the images. Either the memory card has to be available or the photos have to be uploaded to cloud storage. (Some geotag units connect via WiFi to upload photos but not on a continuing basis). Most smartphones provide geotag info "on the fly", but they are in constant 2-way communication with the cell network. That's very different than a stand-alone digital camera.

I may not be "getting" something here, but I don't see any benefit in geotags from photos that were uploaded before Matt disappeared. Just trying to save digging around for camera details that may not be beneficial. Apologies if I'm missing the point.
SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Tiffany/Jilli

REPOSTING THIS as I noticed no one else picked up on this crucial piece of information Ron/Tiffany shared........ (I don't know what this means but I believe it says a lot)

Do you think it possible Matt left a note on his tent/campsite and it was missed somehow?

Is it a safe assumption that Matt leaves notes on his car/tent when he goes out alone?
SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
kenish

Thanks for the information. We were actually trying to get a recent picture because we found out that Matt has a newer camera (different than the model mentioned inearlier posts). We figured if we got a recent picture from him/his camera from that we could figure out from the metadata the camera model and if it had GPS capability.

kenish

Gym climber
Orange County, CA
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
split- Very clever of you...Using a geotag camera as a device to get "un-lost" is something I didn't consider.
LAhiker

Social climber
Los Angeles
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
In the "is someone trying to sell Matt's gear online thus possibly indicating foul play" department, I did a search for yellow La Sportiva Nepal Extreme's on eBay.

I did come up with one lightly used size 11.5 pair for sale:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-Sportiva-nepal-top-extreme-Climbing-Boots-/221264165364?pt=US_Men_s_Athletic_Footwear&hash=item33845f39f4

The insoles are missing -- the seller says he misplaced them -- maybe he discarded them when he put something like Superfeet in? (That's what I'd do as a hiker.)

I don't know when the boots were placed on sale. The seller has sold other things, gets good reviews, and is far from Mammoth, in Canada. He is NOT selling other items associated with Matt. So I suspect these boots have nothing to do with Matt. But I offer this up for what it's worth.
SplitPants

Social climber
LA
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Kenish

I think it is a long shot, but we lose nothing by trying right?
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