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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Courtesy of Anastasia on her Facebook Page.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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OMG, that's brilliant!
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Word of the day: archetypal
archetypal (ˌɑːkɪˈtaɪpəl) or archetypical
adj
1. perfect or typical as a specimen of something
2. being an original model or pattern or a prototype
3. (Psychoanalysis) psychoanal of or relating to Jungian archetypes
4. (Art Terms) constantly recurring as a symbol or motif in literature, painting, etc
5. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) constantly recurring as a symbol or motif in literature, painting, etc
Ardhanarishvara
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardhanarishvara
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Free will, evolution, the most important scientific concept, intelligent design, archetypal, Ardhanarishvara, moral philosophy, etc. . . . it can be somewhat surprising how much effort is spent at saying what (and how) these things are / exist without much reference to being, to experience, to living (in the moment). So much conceptualism. I would hope that one’s own expression is being generated from personal experience in these topics.
Got free will? What are you seeing?
What scientific concept has most changed your living?
What is your experience of Ardhanarishvara?
What intelligent design can you report, personally?
What is archetypal in your life experience?
What moral philosophy are you living, experiencing, seeing being play out?
How’s evolution working out for you in your life?
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WBraun
climber
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What intelligent design can you report, personally?
This guy who calls himself MikeL ....... :-)
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c wilmot
climber
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The tip of a dungeness crab claw is the perfect tool to get all the meat out of the body. Seems intelligently designed to me...
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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“There are thousands of wines
that can take over our minds.
Don't think all ecstasies
are the same!
Jesus was lost in his love for God.
His donkey was drunk with barley."
~ Rumi
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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So Mark, I presume you've read all those pieces and probably a lot more re "free will" - so after all this meta-analysis on your part, what is your view, if you have one?
Perhaps the jury is still out? and keeping an open mind re "free will" is best practice?
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CRISPR will be a huge story in 2017. (Bigger than Trump?) Here are 7 things to look for.
http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/3/14093794/crispr-gene-editing-designer-babies
Interesting read / consideration vis a vis Harari's writing on the subject in his latest book, Homo Deus.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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2017: What scientific term or concept ought to be more widely known?
Sam Harris: Intellectual honesty
"we live in a perpetual choice between conversation and violence. Consequently, few things are more important than a willingness to follow evidence and argument wherever they lead. The ability to change our minds, even on important points—especially on important points—is the only basis for hope that the human causes of human misery can be finally overcome."
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/27227
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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HFCS, I am still of the opinion that free will exists.
I second intellectual honesty.
We could stand to generalize that to honesty. I find that practice to be surprisingly difficult upon close scrutiny.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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The ability to change our minds, even on important points—especially on important points—is the only basis for hope that the human causes of human misery can be finally overcome.
I don't imagine many would disagree with this statement. However, a "cure" for human caused misery goes only so far. There is the "grave and constant" in human experience which is untouched by political life no matter what degree of utopian perfection is achieved and these grave and constant occurrences in human experience demand some sort of reconciliation.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Fair replies, imo. Thanks.
I do believe Jerry Coyne, as a prominent deterministic commentator, eg, has trouble seeing the "free will" and "choice" issues from more than one frame of reference. Imo, more than one frame of reference (or equally, "way of talking") exists re these subjects, and when this (multimodal framing or thinking) is taken into account much of the confusion melts away. That is my experience, anyways.
And insofar as Coyne has trouble, how much more a general public.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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^^^Thoughtful.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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The First of Our Second Chances
Romans 3:10-18
Our loving Father is the God of second chances. His grace is so extensive that He offers countless opportunities to hear the gospel and receive His Son Jesus Christ as Savior. What’s more, He reaches into the muck of mankind’s sinful nature, rebellious spirit, perversity, and unclean language in order to save His beloved creation.
If you think that the Lord takes second chances lightly, read today’s passage carefully—it is a look at humanity through divine eyes. On our own, no matter how much we try to be good, we are foolish, useless, and evil. Thankfully, God’s grace is immeasurably greater than our sin.
Of course, the heavenly Father is a righteous judge who cannot ignore transgressions. If He did, He would not be the holy and just deity described in the Scriptures. While humanity might count passivity as kindness, the Lord considers grace an action word. As a result, He implemented a simple rescue plan for each person on earth: Whoever believes in Jesus Christ as Savior is forgiven. We are justified by faith and at peace with God (Rom. 5:1). The rebellious war we carried out against Him is over. Sins are washed off our heart. In fact, from God’s perspective, His children look as if they have never done wrong.
Jesus is our second chance. Apart from Him, there is no salvation, no justification, and no grace. Look again at the passage from Romans 3. It’s not possible to clean up one’s own heart—each man or woman must take advantage of the purity Christ purchased with His sacrifice on the cross. https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/the-first-of-our-second-chances
...+1 or 2!
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Time for another archetype - the dragon slayer.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Thanks, Mark.
2017: What scientific term or concept ought to be more widely known?
To Norton's critical thinking and Mark's different types of reasoning (deductive, inductive, abductive) my submission could be "frame of reference" otherwise known as context. Really I have no memory of actively, pointedly, being taught this concept in primary school, junior high or high school (nor, btw, rhetoric and loaded languaging via Lakoff). It seems to me its understanding more or less just settled into my consciousness over the years.
In my experience, awareness of (for lack of a better overarching term) "frame of reference" or "context" or even "perspective" engenders understanding into how a claim or thing can be fast (good, true, right, bright, round, etc) in one frame while slow (bad, false, wrong, dark, square, etc) in another; also why people or parties can end up arguing, in some cases, just for the reason that they are thinking or "figuring" things out from different frames (of reference).
Runner up: descriptive (eg, analysis, reporting) vs prescriptive (eg, analysis, course of action, etc)... Never got this treatment in my c. 1970s public schooling either.
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A term related to "frame of reference" that seems to be growing in popularity lately: bubble. :)
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Ha.
What Philosophical Term or Concept Should Be More Widely Known?
http://dailynous.com/2017/01/04/philosophical-term-concept-widely-known/
Derek Parfit obit...
http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/3/14148208/derek-parfit-rip-obit
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Here's my favorite: Flaccid Designators
The image it conjures is great, also.
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