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BrianH

Trad climber
santa fe
Sep 1, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
Posted here to avoid hijacking the thread about the runaway in Colorado Springs,

If she is a runaway, you know the resources devoted to this will be mediocre in quantity, you may have to do this yourself.

The evil one

If by "resources" you mean publicly funded social services like probation officers, gang liaisons or help finding troubled youngsters, this is one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum. After 30 years of complaining about government and cutting services to fund tax cuts for the wealthy; to complain about a dearth of such "resources" is breath-taking hypocrisy.

Of course, if something else is meant then I'll happily withdraw my comment.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 1, 2011 - 06:33pm PT
However, this one was easy to spot as a failure, it's low tech to produce silicon wafers and the Chinese were bound to do it more cheaply
I agree, had the same concerns myself when I applied to them for a job over a year ago.

BUT: If it was so easy to spot why didn't the Venture (vulture) Capitalists for Solyndra figure it out? Or were they also eager to get the Fed funds to cover their own arses and losses?

Independent Business Times:
its venture capitalist backers are likely to lose a sizable chunk of their $1.1 billion investment.

There's plenty of blame on all three sides, VC, Solyndra management and DOE. Bankruptcy court could be very interesting.

Skipt
I'll debate and argue with anyone who makes a cogent argument, based on facts. Throwing out slanders and shibboleths with nothing to back them up is a waste of everyone's time and deserves either silence or scorn in return.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 1, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
What kind of nut job are you?
Bingo

Nice job editing your post so quickly.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 1, 2011 - 06:48pm PT
My comments apply to all. And I do my own best to avoid slander and nonsense. Well.....I repeat a lot of others' nonsense as satire.

sheesh....now I'm actually in a pissing match.
Carry on.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 1, 2011 - 06:57pm PT
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 1, 2011 - 08:11pm PT
The piano business is dying. Dealers are closing left and right. Most American piano manufacturers are gone, their brand names now owned by China.

One of the few piano makers left here is Charles R. Walter. In a business article about the economy and the hard times piano makers are going through, he was asked about the possibility of Walter Pianos going bankrupt. He said it's hard to go bankrupt when you have no debt.

We're so screwed, nobody wants to reward work anymore, just paper shufflers.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 1, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
Gary,

The demise of the piano industry has more to do with my Baby Boomer generation than with any economic policy, although piano sales tend to correlate with new home construction.

When I was growing up, virtually everyone in my neighborhood had a piano, and most of the kids my age took piano lessons. Fresno had at least six piano dealers. When I had kids (in a more educated and much more wealthy neighborhood) there were two pianos on the block -- both mine. The boys on the block took karate lessons, and the girls dance. Of course, I coaxed my girls into music lessons as well, but I was a great exception. Churches -- the other great source of musical instruction -- stopped using hymnals (the kind with notes, not just words), and we've ended up with a generation that's largely musically illiterate.

America still makes the best piano in the world -- the Steinway. And the Mason & Hamlin is just as good, but the demand just isn't there for pianos period. A couple of months ago, Fresno had zero piano dealers. We're back to one. My generation just isn't interested in playing it, and made sure we didn't inflict music lessons on our children.

John
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Sep 1, 2011 - 09:26pm PT
Do not let Obama visit your business. It is the kiss of death.

The standard market trick of the pump and dump for friends of Barry?

1.Liberals start a green energy company with Obama stimulus money.
2. kick back some of the money to Democrat reelection campaigns.
3. File for bankruptcy but keep all unspent money through fiscal trickery.
4. repeat

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/31/solyndra-california-solar-company-green-energy_n_943571.html

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/08/several-solar-power-companies-are-going.html

California electric car company files bankruptcy after collecting
as much stimulus cash as it could.
http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/07/electric-car-triac-ev-green-vehicles-files-bankruptcy/
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 1, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
Obama is toast, just today the admin admitted that unemployment will remain over 9% through 2012, bye bye Obama.
and you're gloating?
Easy to say, you're "employed"
Stewart

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Sep 1, 2011 - 11:26pm PT
Degaine: Thanks for accepting my apology. All the best.

What depresses me about Fascist attacks on Obama & specifically the accusations of his "leftist" agenda (as though being a leftist is something to be ashamed of) is that, in the rest of the world, an objective observer would categorize him as a moderate. More accurately, his politics would be identified as being slightly RIGHT of centre.

I don't identify such people as Fascists for nothing - these hyenas faithfully parrot the same twisted sentiments & Democracy in the U.S. is in extreme danger if their Satanic ideology ends up spreading its slime over the Oval Office. In that scenario, prepare to kiss what's left of your Constitution and the Bill of Rights goodbye.

There's a song out there called "America the Beautiful." Perhaps it would be a good idea for civilized citizens to get into the habit of singing it more often to remind themselves what is certain to disappear should the new Dark Ages emerge under the onslaught of mobs of ignorant, hate-crazed fools deluded by the cynical manipulations of their evil leaders.
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 1, 2011 - 11:33pm PT
Yeah, John, there is not much interest in acoustic pianos anymore. And the recent downturn has just leveled dealers left and right. Guitar is the thing now, it's cool.

When I decided to get an acoustic and retire my keyboard and get serious, I couldn't get to the dealers fast enough. They were shutting down faster than I could get to them. The dealer I purchased my Kawai from is gone now.

Unlike Walter, Steinway has a lot of debt. They sold a bunch of stock to Samick recently, don't be surprised if in just a few years Steinway is a Korean company. Steinways are becoming too expensive, and the European makers are starting to take away their high-end niche.

Not too mention that the Chinese Communists are about to buy up the National Pastime!
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-mccourt-sale-20110902,0,3026247.story
Frank McCourt has been offered $1.2 billion to sell the Dodgers, The Times has learned.

The bid is headed by Los Angeles Marathon founder Bill Burke and funded in part by Chinese investors, according to a letter sent to McCourt on Tuesday.

Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 1, 2011 - 11:35pm PT
Stewart, there is another song Americans should be singing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s
apogee

climber
Sep 2, 2011 - 12:48am PT
"Notice how our resident Republichildren aren't saying too much about the US auto industry"

They've been awfully quiet about Lybia lately, too.
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:03am PT
jghedge - think again oh-uninformed one. The Feds GM involvement makes that particular kiss of death just a long sloppy ongoing one.

And Chrysler's Federal bailout opened the door for the govt to sell
a controlling interest to the Italian car company FIAT, and losing taxpayers $1.3billion on the deal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/business/us-sheds-its-stake-in-chrysler.html?_r=1


and not the brightest move he's made.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:05am PT
Appogee...I read that fun-employment in Michigan is down below 10% due to increased hiring in the auto-worker sectors...Does this mean Obama's stimulous contributions to the auto industry created employment...?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:09am PT
Cornice..Soon bachmann , palin , romney , perry or Knute gingrich will be president and miracles will begin to happen...Cheer up bunky...!
apogee

climber
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:10am PT
Let's start a list of accomplishments that most MOR R's or D's would agree were reasonably positive...Shrub vs. Obama.

I can think of two for Shrub's entire 8 years...and much as I'm disappointed in Obama, I can think of at least 4 or 5 in 2 years.

Edit: Not that it will change anyone's mind. But just for the record...
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:15am PT
"Notice how our resident Republichildren aren't saying too much about the US auto industry"

They've been awfully quiet about Lybia lately, too.

Apogee, the jury's still out on both of these, although I think there are many hopeful signs that both will be success stories.

On Libya, I feel confident that we've won a clear tactical victory, and the Obama adminstration deserves credit for its part in bringing this about, namely using the American air power to do what only it can do -- dismantle opposing forces' command, control and radar capability -- then letting allies carry the laboring oar. As we learned in Afghanistan and Iraq, however, it's premature to say we've won a strategic victory. That depends on the government that emerges.

While those wards of the state, Chrysler and GM, are doing much better at the moment, there's still a ways to go before we can evaluate the peoples' investment in those companies and their unions. Time will tell, but at least it hasn't been a clear failure, which is better than I feared, and about as good as I hoped.

I hope both efforts succeed, but I'd be wary of pronouncing "mission accomplished" just yet.


John
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Sep 2, 2011 - 01:19am PT
you Liberal zombies process information differently than normal people.

for instance -Obama sans teleprompter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxEZsIk1_Vg&feature=related





apogee

climber
Sep 2, 2011 - 02:12am PT
John, your comments belie an underlying tone and expectation that this was a war for the US to 'win' in the first place. A mighty large assumption to make in the first place, donchathink?

No argument that the US has a vested interest in what becomes of Libya (oil-wise, at least). And no argument that what is happening right now is only the beginning of Libya's new future, whatever that will be.

I haven't heard any kind of rhetoric to the effect of 'Mission Accomplished' from the Obama Administration (yet). It would be pretty hard to argue that when the clear strategy was to have minimum involvement in the first place. Quite a bit different from deposing Hussein, wouldn't you say?
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