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dirtbag
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:34am PT
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Chief, the article was about confronting republican demagogues and bigotry, not about Isis. Wrong channel, sir.
I don't really feel like arguing with you anyway. It's a complete waste of time.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:37am PT
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I just watched an amazing movie last night, The Good Lie, about South Sudan refugees:
They were known simply as "The Lost Boys." Orphaned by the brutal Civil war in Sudan that began in 1983, these young victims traveled as many as a thousand miles on foot in search of safety. Fifteen years later, a humanitarian effort would bring 3600 lost boys and girls to America. In "The Good Lie," Philippe Falardeau brings the story of their survival and triumph to life. Sudanese actors Arnold Oceng, Ger Duany, Emmanuel Jal, and newcomer Nyakuoth Weil, many of whom were also children of war, star alongside Academy Award(R) winner Reese Witherspoon and Corey Stoll.
Refugees are not garbage rats, they're people who's lives have been thrown into the garbage by men who seek only to enrich themselves.
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RyanD
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:39am PT
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Seems very un American to bag on the leadership of your country so much the Chief.
Maybe you are actually a terrorist on some level if one was to examine the patriot act closely.
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overwatch
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:41am PT
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Yeah, he would be arrested in Thailand
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:46am PT
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Fritz, let the hysterical right (well represented here ^^) nominate Trump. We will then have an election between an intelligent adult, Hillary, and an ignorant adolescent. The results might just put the crazies who are in control of the GOP back into the closet.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:48am PT
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Seems very un American to bag on the leadership of your country so much the Chief.
Obviously you have not been in the military.
And what is it about you people who can't stand arguing with The Chief? Is it that he won't
come around to your cherished perception of 'truth'? OMG!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:49am PT
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RyanD
climber
Nov 20, 2015 - 08:39am PT
Seems very un American to bag on the leadership of your country so much the Chief.
Ya, guess these dooooods were totally fked up "rabid dogs" and so "un American" as well. All they did was "bag" on the leadership of their country!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:10am PT
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I suspect we are heading towards a "paper's please" nation. Throw our liberties right out the window. And gun enthusiasts thought their liberties were being trampled on by more robust back ground checks??? Just wait.
I thought it Draconian that I couldn't even check my son out of the hospital 24 years ago without getting him a SSN. What's next a chip?
I'm with Rand Paul on this one. I have no reason to believe that the US govt won't ramp up even more surveillance.
Terrorism is horrific and Ive been giving a great deal of thought to exactly where the balance is between protection of our privacy and liberties and huge intrusion into those all in the name of keeping us safe. Over the years we've seen how crazy it is to get on a flight.
There is a cost for Liberty. The horrific price is that often, innocents, will pay some of that price.
Susan
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:11am PT
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This sums up the Republican position nicely
as-your-governor-i-will-protect-you-from-mass-shooters-if-they-are-syrian
When I took the oath of office, I swore to do everything I could to protect the citizens of this state from harm. There is nothing more important to me than ensuring that we are safe and can gather in our public places without fear of mass, indiscriminate violence. The nightmare scenario — the one that keeps me up at night — is the one where some individual could easily and legally obtain a firearm and use that firearm to kill innocent American citizens and also that the individual doing the killing is Syrian.
That’s why, as long as I’m your governor, I vow to do everything in my power to prevent Syrians from shooting you while you are at the mall. No Syrians will enter a movie theater and start shooting you. Syrians will not shoot you at church, or in a restaurant, as long as I am governor. College campuses also will not be places where it will be okay to be shot by Syrians. As your governor, I will ensure that no Syrians enter your child’s elementary school and start shooting your child.
Here are some other places where I will not tolerate American citizens getting shot by Syrians: community centers; school cafeterias; hair salons; nursing homes; office buildings; night clubs; temples; supermarkets; lecture halls; dorms; trains; house parties; playgrounds; post offices; front yards. If anyone at any of these locations were ever shot by Syrians, I would take swift and decisive action to protect our citizens from ever again being shot by Syrians.
This is how you know that I am concerned about your safety: no Syrians.
No Syrians will be able to just walk into a sporting goods store and purchase a deadly weapon on a whim or buy bulletproof body armor online. No Syrians will be allowed to attend gun shows and purchase whatever firearms they desire without restriction. And I refuse to support special interest groups whose sole mission is to profit from putting weapons into the hands of people, if those people are Syrians. Were there such an organization devoted to equipping Syrians with as many guns as they can afford, I would not bow to that organization’s every wish, because I am a public official, and I care very deeply about the safety of our citizens when it comes to whether they might be shot and killed by Syrians.
To that end, I promise to require full registration and tracking of all Syrians, and a “cooling off” period for anyone who wishes to become Syrian. Because this much is clear: the answer to the problems posed by Syrians is not more Syrians.
But it doesn’t matter, because there will be no Syrians.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:17am PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:20am PT
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The answer is simple, but it is the execution that is so problematic.
We have to create a world that people want to be a part of rather than escape from. Hate begets hate.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired Climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:24am PT
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No Syrians will enter a movie theater and start shooting you
umm, the dude in Aurora, Colorado was not Syrian.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:26am PT
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Why are you loons wanting to protect right wing extremists?
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:30am PT
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We have to create a world that people want to be a part of rather than escape from.
From what I understand, humanity has been attempting to do that for over 3000 years.
But there's always that 1% that seem to NOT want that. And that 1% just doesn't go away.
Then there's another 1% that fight to the death to keep that other 1% at bay so that the other 98% can keep hoping that dream you speak of Toker, one day comes true.
SUSAN,
I am with you. We need to dump TSA and the NSA's surveillance program asap cus by God, this would NEVER happen on our soil. Never! Frkn right wing extremist Repugs are so out of touch with reality I tell ya.
BTW, Pretty amazing what a "soda can" is capable of doing...
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John M
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:41am PT
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what do you want Obama to do Chief?
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The Chief
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:44am PT
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Ah JohnM, how bout for starters, he stop bullshetting us for a change and actually start to "Contain" ISIS.
Imagine that, huh?
Oh, and after the Congress Votes shet like this, he stop Vetoing and insisting he will do as he wishes and NOT what the People want.
President Obama Threatens to Veto Bill Tightening Security for Refugees
"It would require a strict background check" POTUS Obama http://time.com/4119391/president-obama-syrian-refugee-bill/
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John M
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:48am PT
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contain in what way.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:51am PT
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SUSAN,
I am with you. We need to dump TSA and the NSA's surveillance program asap cus by God, this would NEVER happen on our soil. Never! Frkn right wing extremist Repugs are so out of touch with reality I tell ya.
Your words. Not mine.
Susan
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 20, 2015 - 09:52am PT
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contain in what way.
Mass Grave, for starters.
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