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A5scott

Trad climber
Chicago
Dec 4, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
I've read bits here and there of this thread... i'm not sure the ACA was the best way to fix things, but how do folks feel about a no bid contract for the website construction awarded to a foreign firm that the Canadian government fired from the same job because they sucked at it. One of Michelle Obama's princeton classmates was an executive in the firm that got the contract. it's going to cost near 1 Billion dollars after all the fixes. Currently, there isn't much security built into the site and it can't handle anywhere near the throughput of amazon or other like sites.

is there some reason that somebody in silicon valley couldn't have built a way better site for a fraction of the cost? Keep some jobs stateside?

scott
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 4, 2013 - 05:02pm PT
nobody likes to be lied to, especially by the President.

apparently, some do...

Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Dec 4, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
've worked on Amtrak projects, Fannie Mae, SEC, ... let's not even go into the DoD stuff. Clusterf*#k is par for the course. And it's not just federal, stuff done by the states is just as bad.

Will the administration and fulfillment of ACA be any different and if so why?

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 4, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
"But not everything works perfectly on day one. Of course, as expected, children and partisan tools throw a tantrum when things aren't perfect."

Yep. That about nails it.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Dec 4, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Who to support Dave? NO ONE IN THE MIX OF WASHINGTON CURRENTLY!!!!!!!!!

President Hillary Clinton. Get used to the sound of it.

Curt
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 4, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
"It's common decency, basic sportsmanship. "

Yer wasting your breath, Dave. Rongo doesn't understand such things as 'basic sportsmanship'.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Dec 4, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
"But not everything works perfectly on day one. Of course, as expected, children and partisan tools throw a tantrum when things aren't perfect.


I thought ACA implementation would be a smooooth as butter if it was not for those darn Republicans messing it all up.

Yep, ACA sucks because of the Republicans.

Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
^^^^ Some of your friends said it earlier in this thread.

More good news!!!!



THE WALL STREET JOURNAL News Alert
Drug-Cost Surprises Lurk Inside New Health Plans
Americans with chronic illnesses—who are expected to be among the biggest beneficiaries of the health law—face widely varying out-of-pocket drug costs that could be obscured on the new insurance exchanges.

Under the law, patients can’t be denied coverage due to existing conditions or charged higher rates than healthier peers. The law also sets an annual out-of-pocket maximum of up to $6,350 for individuals and $12,700 for families, after which insurers pay the full tab.

But depending on the coverage they select, some patients on expensive drug regimens could reach that level fast.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
oh f*#k it...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
And the Republicans solution to making health care affordable was...?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
Do you really think the Republicans can do a good job of this? Really?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
Pass the bill so you can see what is in it. Sounds like a solid plan to me.


Really who cares Repub or Dem. Find something that is workable. Use common sense. Oh wait, that is not the American political way.

Lets just jam a shi**y so called health care fix down the throats of the American people and see what happens. So what if it will screw millions of Americans. It can help millions of other Americans so lets force it on the American tax paying public.



Oh yeah, let's also totally F'up the roll out by outsourcing the IT functions to Canada.


Only good thing so far is that you are mking BANK if you are an insurance co exec or were smart enough to dump your savings into healthcare stocks before the run up.

Sweeeeeet

President Barack Obama and the Obamacare debacle may be highly unpopular with Americans, but the healthcare industry that donated a staggering $22,471,562 to Obama's 2008 campaign is posting record profits amid the fallout.
So far in 2013, the S&P healthcare sector index has gained 37.5%, making it the S&P 500's best-performing sector, reports Reuters.
"Healthcare is the place to be. It's a hot area," said U.S. Global Investors Inc. top trader Michael Matousek. "People want stocks in healthcare, industrials and consumer discretionary. That's where tactical investors have been focused, and that's where the money has been flowing."
Cato health policy analyst Michael Tanner told CNBC that what is bad for citizens has been a boon for insurance companies.
"Customers aren't doing well but the insurers are doing great," said Tanner. "Insurers by and large are getting new customers."
Some healthcare companies are enjoying record gains. Aetna, Cigna, UnitedHealth, and Gilead have recently been trading near 52-week highs. According to CNBC, Gilead is up almost 200% since Obamacare was enacted. Amgen is up over 90%. Biogen has been an even bigger winner, posting gains of over 300%.




Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
Maybe not socialism but clear cronyism and general corruption that permeates our government starting with our savior Obama.

Obama likes to pick the financial winners in our country. So does Putin.




i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
Stocks of health care co's are going pretty darn good these days...wonder why?

all stocks are doing pretty well these days.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
Nobody likes to have insurance plans they liked and were perfectly happy with being cancelled.
Absolutely.
I found this op-ed from Fox News interesting
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
"Obama likes to pick the financial winners in our country. So does Putin."



He's been picking more losers than winners lately.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 5, 2013 - 12:58am PT
He's been picking more losers than winners lately


^^^^ Prove it.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2013 - 05:25pm PT



The cut off for individuals signing up for next year has come and gone for this state. Yet they still don't have the web site up and working yet. They said they would take paper applications and then hired 400 people to process them, and have not announced any sign ups ...that I've seen. They had radio spots going on multiple stations, but they were crooning about it, and basically wasting shitloads of money as it was some jackass playing the guitar and singing "Cover Orrreeegon" over and over and it wasn't informative, interesting or topical. Furthermore, they couldn't sign you up while they were doing all of this wailing away on the radio. Total waste of money. I'm sure that there are some signups by now, CNN is reporting 219 applications are being processed, which is less than one per new Government hire. Pretty weak.

Our company received a notice from Kaiser that we "now" can extend our current plan for a full year due to recent changes which to me is disturbing as no one had told us we couldn't extend before or that anything was remiss. Furthermore, we have a damned good health care plan. I was of the mind earlier that the company mandates were delayed for a year, but as we had less than 50 employees we were exempt from the bullshit anyway.

Evidently not. Still don't know whats up. I pay for a bunch of other folks to have healthcare too, and I've charged them to find out what's up: as of yet, none of us knows jack or squat so we'll continue to muddle on in ignorance.






Some CNN info here germane to our situation: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101242913

"Oregon Obamacare site flounders as feds make progress

Published: Tuesday, 3 Dec 2013 | 1:35 PM ET
By: Dan Mangan |



And you thought HealthCare.gov had problems.

Oregon's state-run Obamacare exchange still isn't working more than two months after its scheduled launch, and the state on Monday said a paltry 219 people have filed paper applications for private health insurance so far.

Making matters worse, the official in charge of Oregon's disastrous health exchange website is now taking a medical leave amid harsh criticism of his job performance.

Cover Oregon, like all Obamacare exchanges, was supposed to begin operations Oct. 1. But a series of serious technical glitches prevented it from enrolling people online in individual health insurance.

This means Oregon is at the back of the Obamacare enrollment pack among the 15 exchanges run by states and the District of Columbia. And even its claim about the 219 paper applications contains a major caveat: Not all of these forms have been forwarded to insurers yet.

Under the Affordable Care Act's additional goal of covering more people under Medicaid by expanding its eligibility criteria in some states, another 3,200 or so people in Oregon have enrolled in Medicaid. But these numbers still put Oregon's enrollment far short of what many had expected.

Meanwhile, federal officials on Tuesday were crowing that their HealthCare.gov site had handled a huge number of visitors on Monday, the first business day of operation after officials said a major software and hardware repair effort had led to dramatically improved performance on the site.


The official Twitter feed for HealthCare.gov on Tuesday morning tweeted, "1 million visits to http://HC.gov yesterday. Site stable, faster for users." That is 200,000 more visitors than the capacity goal publicly set by Jeff Zients, the management expert tapped to fix the site.

Joanne Peters, spokeswoman for the federal Health and Human Services Department, followed up with a tweet of her own, saying that the 1 million visitor volume showed "high demand for quality, affordable health care."

So far on Tuesday, the site was showing continued progress, with officials sending another tweet that there were 380,000 visits by noon, with no need for a new queuing tool. That tool is designed to deal with high traffic volumes. On Monday, traffic at that point of the day had reached 375,000, and the queuing tool was deployed.
Source: Cover Oregon

December is a critical month for Obamacare because people must select a plan through the government-run health exchanges by Dec. 23 in order to have insurance kick in by Jan. 1.

So far, about 330,000 people have enrolled in coverage through either HealthCare.gov, which services residents of 36 states, or through the state-run exchanges. That is significantly below the 1.2 million people that federal officials had originally projected would have exchange-purchased insurance by the end of November.


HealthCare.gov's many technical problems, which were exposed right after its launch, have dramatically hampered enrollment on the federal site. Sources have said that just 125,000 or so people enrolled via the federal site by the end of last month.

Back in Oregon all eyes are on Dec. 16, the date when Cover Oregon hoped to be able to accept online enrollments for individuals.

Rocky King, the embattled director of Cover Oregon, said he didn't know if Cover Oregon would meet the target.

On Monday, King was granted up to 12 weeks of medical leave by Cover Oregon's board of directors. He said he has had health problems for years, but his leave comes after media in Oregon uncovered emails showing that there were numerous red flags earlier this year that the website would not be ready for launch.

"I'd always planned in the last year to take some time as soon as we really got through the launch on October 1," King told reporters. "Unfortunately, it didn't launch the way we wanted."

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Dec 6, 2013 - 06:06pm PT

Norton
I don't know where it is stated in the ACA that dental insurance
is addressed--but I received this notice from my dental insurer,
and I quote "Because your plan is not ACA-compliant, you will be transferred
on your renewal date to one that most closely matches your current plan."

I cover myself since I am a retiree, and it is individual insurance--where in an individual policy does it state something about dependents. . .

I don't think the ACA went far enough, on a personal level--Obama should have pushed for Medicare for all. . .
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