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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Hahahaha, "mystery missile", thats hilarious. Next thing you know you will say there is an Ark on the moon! Nah, you can't be that stupid...
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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So there goes simple prima facia evidence.
A million years of knowing our left hand from our right hand counts for nothing.
You are just too funny Ron.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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I say there is at least one. Don't you remember the astronaut on the moon drives?
Now draw two intersecting lines on a piece of paper and ponder left from right.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Good, then you are ready for your next lesson.
LAX webcam view:
Long Beach:
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ive said numerous times that the correction displayed in the original footage matches the sat imagery perfectly.
It does, because the contrail in the sat pic is south of the solar azimuth, whereas Klimmer's nw track is north of the azimuth and hence can't produce the imagery in the original video or subsequent pics from other vantages. It's amazing how much analysis Klimmer can do, but he can't manage to plot the solar azimuth at sunset out of Long Beach and then project that onto the sat pic. If he did he'd see that it just ain't possible to produce that lighting on his track.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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You can clearly see the Moon Ark at the very top of Monolith's 2nd photo, above the horizontal cloud.
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Bump for 1000. YEA!!!!
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Different angles, the sun is setting, not exactly the same time, different resolution, Ron.
The characteristics of the contrail and clouds are the same in both pics.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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That's one of the points Ron, it's not really 170 miles out to sea. It's much closer. The diagram was for 170 miles.
And by this time, a 'missile' going downrange should be more than a thousand miles out to sea.
That's why Klim is stuck in his little cloud.
The concept of the diagram was to show that 'left' means going to the coast, 'right' means going away.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Definitely not Klimmer's blue arrow track.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Good Ron, then you have to throw this evidence out.
You'll have a tough time doing that after viewing all the Warren pics and comparing to the helicopter video.
Klimmer says he can ignore this simple evidence due to the power of his crappy 3D with very little distance between pics.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Does that mean that the ark has an arc?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Under that blue arrow lies 'tracks' to the north of the line of the sun's azimuth and so absolutely cannot produce the visuals from the original video or LAX pic. Anything to the north of the arrow headed on a NW track would have the lighting that's the opposite of that in the video and pics.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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why, if the two views are from similar locales, such different shots?
an answer to that may be that the object you are viewing is close enough so that the relatively small change in the locales is enough to produce a large angular difference in the scenes... if that object were far away then the change in locale wouldn't matter so much... think about the looking at the Moon, it pretty much stays in the same position even with large changes in locale... it's far away...
the helicopter footage was taken on a bearing almost parallel to the incoming aircraft, it would be very difficult to see angular differences in the track, think about it, your eyes are at the same height, and displaced off the centerline of your face... that is best for the kind of binocular vision that we need to survive... the pictures the helicopter took were as if you had two eyes, one above the other on the centerline of your face, not so good binocular vision...
I know this is pissing in the wind... klimmer doesn't understand the very rudimentary principles in the quantitative aspects of what he is talking about...
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 16, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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http://www.nasawatch.com/
Soyuz TMA-20 with Expedition 26 on its way to ISS
By Marc Boucher on December 15, 2010 2:15 PM
A Russian Soyuz rocket lifted off at 2:09 p.m. EST with the Expedition 26 crew on-board headed to the International Space Station. The crew includes Russian cosmonaut Dmitry Kondratyev, American astronaut Catherine Coleman and from the European Space Agency Italian Paolo Nespoli.
Edit: watch the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mqVC-CNB3g&feature=player_embedded
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 16, 2010 - 02:58am PT
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 26, 2010 - 12:45am PT
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/25/AR2010122500642.html
By ASHOK SHARMA
The Associated Press
Saturday, December 25, 2010; 11:34 AM
NEW DELHI -- A rocket carrying an Indian communication satellite exploded just after liftoff Saturday in the second launch failure for India's space agency this year.
Television images showed the rocket exploding in smoke and fire just after it launched from the Sriharikota space center in Andhra Pradesh state. It was carrying a GSAT-5P communication satellite into orbit.
The vehicle developed an error 47 seconds after liftoff and lost command, leading to a higher angle in the flight, said K. Radhakrishnan, chairman of the Indian Space Research Organization.
"That caused a higher stress, breaking up the vehicle," Radhakrishnan told reporters.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:36am PT
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Another secret launch from Vandenberg...
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