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thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 16, 2015 - 04:40pm PT
Color me anxious!!!!


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dhs-secretary-jeh-johnson-unveils-revised-terror-alert/story?id=35790668
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 16, 2015 - 05:00pm PT
Yeah we ignore idiot pissant's such as yourself Cranksore. I had to LOL on your recent post attributing low gas prices (and why in the hell aren't you plugging in an EV rather than gassing up anyway) to Obama and your " don't drill baby drill" ignorant statement. Truth be told the moronic progressive rabid enviro movement along with the dear leader have succeeded in slowing FF procurement on Fed land, but this slowdown was dwarfed by a huge increase of extraction on private and state land. So, thank forward thinking Americans and to lesser extent the Saudi's economic jihad against our FF industry for your cheap gas. Ironically this is the polar opposite of the "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" promise of the jihadist in chief.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 16, 2015 - 05:15pm PT
Yeah we ignore idiot pissant's such as yourself Cranksore. I had to LOL on your recent post attributing low gas prices (and why in the hell aren't you plugging in an EV rather than gassing up anyway) to Obama and your " don't drill baby drill" ignorant statement. Truth be told the moronic progressive rabid enviro movement along with the dear leader have succeeded in slowing FF procurement on Fed land, but this slowdown was dwarfed by a huge increase of extraction on private and state land. So, thank forward thinking Americans and the Saudi's economic jihad against our FF industry for your cheap gas. Ironically this is the polar opposite of the "energy prices will necessarily skyrocketing" promise of the jihadist in chief.

I'm sure you think you made a point. But I tried to read this from a right wing tea party crankloon point of view and it made no sense. Then I tried from a liberal Marxist Isis loving point of view and it still made no sense.

Try using proper nouns and maybe we can translate into English. Who, for example, are forward thinking Americans?

In the thirties, that would have been Prescott Bush(American Nazi) or the IWW ( American Communist)
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 16, 2015 - 05:16pm PT

a lie is when you say something that is simply not true

so why did you lie?

Norton, I think you're having very hard time understanding what a lie is.
I had to inform you of the definition when we were talking about Hillary's lying a while ago--you got confused then, and I see you're still confused.
A lie is not just when you say something that isn't true. That's being wrong. Lying has a "state of mind" component.
(By the way I'm not even sure what the issue is here, just Norton's post reminded me of when he was confused in the past, so I'm trying to help him out.)
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 16, 2015 - 06:11pm PT
Hahahaha.

Let us know what Obama blocked or "snubbed" in the first three days.


You got nothing but a vivid imagination.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 16, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
Hahahaha.

Let us know what Obama blocked in the first three days.

You got nothing but a vivid imagination.

You can't be serious. You're just trolling, right?

I asked for specifics.

What are you talking about, specifically?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 16, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
I don't normally think much about what political candidates look like, unless they are grossly fat. However in last night's debate I kept focusing on Marco Rubio's ears, which the CNN cameras also seemed to emphasize.

His ears seemed hugely out of proportion, like if he worked on it, he could fly with them ------- like Dumbo the Flying Elephant.

Wouldn't that be awesome!


So------his home-state newspapers have noticed those elegant ears too.

http://blogs.tallahassee.com/for-rubio-its-all-about-his-ears-sweating-and-drinking-too-much-water/

For Rubio, it’s all about his ears, sweating and drinking too much water
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Dec 16, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
Hey, Dick Sumner, the turn to hard, rightwing bigotry, is this new? Were you always this way? I'm interested in how Americans get radicalized.

You just referred to the President of the United States as an "azzhole" and a "turd". Classy. If you use these terms on a public forum, one can only wonder what terms you use amongst your like-minded friends.

Just enjoy the low gas prices. And knowing ANWR is protected.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 16, 2015 - 08:20pm PT


I asked for specifics.

What are you talking about, specifically?


You mean he didn't snub the Republicans... three days after taking office... over the most significant legislation of his first year?


Ok, that's pretty specific. It has to be three days, and it has to be a significant piece of legislation, and he has to have snubbed them.


There was no significant legislation proposed or voted on in the first three days by either a Democrats or Republicans. Legislation is a specific word.

Here's day 3 in the congressional record.
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2009/01/23


From the Congressional record
Senate Jan 23 "Chamber Action
The Senate was not in session today. It will next meet at 2 p.m. on
Monday, January 26, 2009.
"

House Jan 23: "The House met at 12 noon and adjourned at 12:03 p.m."


Day 1 was inauguration. Day 2 was votes swearing in new members . Day 3 was committee apportionments and day 4 a three minute house session. . Then a 2 day break.



The first significant legislation I see is the 26th. (Day 6) which was a proposal on the floor to make the day National Data Privacy day. Are you saying he snubbed republicans over that?

So tell us what SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION there was in the FIRST THREE DAYS. You have the link to the Congressional record.

Specifics is a bitch. This isn't FOX News.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 17, 2015 - 04:44am PT
Ok, that's pretty specific. It has to be three days, and it has to be a significant piece of legislation, and he has to have snubbed them.

“Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – President Obama to House Republican Whip Eric Cantor, January 23, 2009.

This^ occurred during a meeting of Obama and congressional leaders, about the stimulus package. At the time, I believe it was dismissed as a minor banter, until Republicans learned they would be excluded from writing the bill.

Obama campaigned on having a "post partisan" Presidency. Then, three days in, he responds to GOP concerns with "Elections have consequences". "I won" and "I trump you". Then, House Repubs found out they had zero input on the stimulus bill.

Obama gets full credit for alienating the GOP, right off the bat.

Where has Obama not compromised? Just look at his two largest pieces of legislation.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Dec 17, 2015 - 06:59am PT
Calling Fritz for a physical description of Michael Moore.
Gary

Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:04am PT
GOP adds $650 billion to the deficit.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-congress-budget-20151217-story.html
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:52am PT
Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – President Oba


That's it? That's the big legislative snub in the first three days? It's the winner of an election reminding the losers they will have to deal with him. It's called reality.

Your memory of post election declarations must be pretty dim. Here's GWB's first meeting with reporters after the 2004 election. He won both elections by smaller margins than Obama did.



Bush claims mandate, sets 2nd-term"
Bush staked his claim to a broad mandate and announced his top priorities at a post-election news conference, saying his 3.5 million vote victory had won him political capital that he would spend enacting his conservative agenda.

"I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush told reporters. "It is my style."

There have been whole papers on the phenomenon of the claimed mandate. Here's the start of one going back to 1983 talking about the mandate Reagan claimed in 1980

http://web.grinnell.edu/courses/pol/f02/pol101-02/Dahl%20-%20Myth%20of%20the%20Presidential%20Mandate.pdf

It's a fact of presidential politics that the winner claims right to set the agenda. It has happened in every election I remember in my lifetime, even when results were razor thin. In this case, Obama got more than 51% of the vote both times, by greater margins than either bush, or than Reagan got.

Here's an article that records all the past claims from past presidents, and says it's the only legitimate way to start office.

http://www.thenation.com/article/president-can-and-must-claim-mandate-govern/

So your claim of a big snub on major legislations here days after is bunk. There wasn't yet any legislation either proposed or voted on . It's part of the kabuki that happens after every election.
And it is You trying to deny mandate the president had. Weak sauce.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:56am PT
Lorenzo, sometimes I get this image of you as Sisyphus.


Except it's steaming pile of diarrhoeal glop you're pushing, honorably, with the appropriate broadscoop shovel of logic, again and again.

Don't forget your redbull and a happy Teutonic love for ceaseless labor
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
Well, well, it appears that the politicians finally decided to work together after all. The budget deal has enough in it to infuriate both the Freedom Caucus and the reactionary left. In other words, the centrists finally won. It's about time.

John
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
That's it? That's the big legislative snub in the first three days? It's the winner of an election reminding the losers they will have to deal with him. It's called reality.

Your memory of post election declarations must be pretty dim. Here's GWB's first meeting with reporters after the 2004 election. He won both elections by smaller margins than Obama did.

Bush claims mandate, sets 2nd-term"
Bush staked his claim to a broad mandate and announced his top priorities at a post-election news conference, saying his 3.5 million vote victory had won him political capital that he would spend enacting his conservative agenda.

"I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush told reporters. "It is my style."

There have been whole papers on the phenomenon of the claimed mandate. Here's the start of one going back to 1983 talking about the mandate Reagan claimed in 1980

http://web.grinnell.edu/courses/pol/f02/pol101-02/Dahl%20-%20Myth%20of%20the%20Presidential%20Mandate.pdf

It's a fact of presidential politics that the winner claims right to set the agenda. It has happened in every election I remember in my lifetime, even when results were razor thin. In this case, Obama got more than 51% of the vote both times, by greater margins than either bush, or than Reagan got.

Here's an article that records all the past claims from past presidents, and says it's the only legitimate way to start office.

http://www.thenation.com/article/president-can-and-must-claim-mandate-govern/

So your claim of a big snub on major legislations here days after is bunk. There wasn't yet any legislation either proposed or voted on . It's part of the kabuki that happens after every election.
And it is You trying to deny mandate the president had. Weak sauce.

You do go on. So defensive. Tsk, tsk.

What I said was accurate.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
Haha. The cowboy expanding on bullsh#t.

Priceless.

I suppose Obama was supposed to go hat in hand to the losers and asked what legislation he could pass for them.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:16pm PT
What I said was accurate.

yeah, except for the snub, the Republican legislation, and that either was in the first three days. He was countering their snub of his stimulus package.


He didn't do anything Bush or Reagan didn't do.

http://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-to-gop-i-won-017862

I
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
yeah, except for the snub, the legislation, and that either was in the first three days.

Really? Even when I spell it out, you keep denying the obvious.

Keep those blinders on, sport.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:27pm PT
oh! the melanin thing, that was it right Edward?
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