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dirtbag
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Nov 20, 2015 - 06:23am PT
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The French took a lot of sh#t from our right wing during the Iraq war for their supposed timidity.
Yet here they are, still planning to take 30,000 refugees, while some of us cower.
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couchmaster
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Nov 20, 2015 - 06:23am PT
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It's happening again right now, 138 held hostage in Mali at the Radisson there. If you could recite the Koran they let you go. Guess we all need to start studying.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 20, 2015 - 06:27am PT
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Yeah the loons are right. Far more terrorists are thus far coming in with tourist visas. We welcome them in hoping to liberate them of cash at our casinos before they liberate us of the lives. A far more serious problem is our open borders, through which the more impatient "syrian refugees" of fighting age seem to be streaming in unwelcomed.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 06:45am PT
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I am entirely ashamed of my country and embarrassed by the cowardice of the ISIS supporters in congress who have allowed themselves to vote for fear. So much for leadership and principle. It's a new low in American history even by today's standards. The founding fathers weep in their graves and it blatantly disrespects the service and sacrifice of all vets.
This kind of sentiment is all over Facebook. This is what liberals used to call a "Karl Rove style attack" and it saddens me to see that it is now just a standard political tactic. I'd like to think that we can point out the cravenness of the anti-refugee response without stooping to calling people "ISIS supporters."
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:06am PT
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Republican presidential candidates are not helping matters, hddj.
This election is really hitting some new lows.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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Yup, The POTUS has it all under control.... What a Guy!
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The big question for tomorrow on this planet is....
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:25am PT
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After reading the news this morning, it becomes clear that most of the Republican presidential candidates have joined the hate Muslims frenzy that the far-right is currently in love with.
I think it is real-stupid to push our estimated 3 million Muslims into rebellion by treating them like they are terrorists.
One thing George W. Bush got right is detailed in this Washington Post article today: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%e2%80%98rabid%e2%80%99-dogs-and-closing-mosques-anti-islam-rhetoric-grows-in-gop/ar-BBneadO?li=BBnbcA1
The approach contrasts sharply with Bush’s brother in 2001. George W. Bush visited a Washington mosque six days after the 9/11 attacks and later gave an address to Congress that urged tolerance toward Muslims.
“The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself,” the president said. “The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends. . . . Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them.”
George W. Bush and his advisers were trying to tamp down anti-Muslim backlash in the United States and to counter a narrative from the terrorists themselves — that Islam and the West were at war. Bush’s version tried to put the United States and the bulk of the world’s Muslims on the same side of the fight, defending civilization against al-Qaeda’s barbarity.
That message seems to have sunk in: A recent Bloomberg poll, taken after the Paris attacks, showed that 61 percent of Republicans and 76 percent of Democrats agreed with the statement that “Islam is an inherently peaceful religion, but there are some who twist its teachings to justify violence.”
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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After reading the News this morning and seeing another attack on innocent humans by ISIS OUTSIDE of Syria and Iraq, I now realize that we have a total MORON as our President.
"We Have ISIS Contained.....
In the meantime, so many here on ST and throughout our country, deny the reality and extent of what is truly occurring and only put blame on everyone else except their Champion of Change.
We got some "Change" alright. I just "HOPE" these fkers, ISIS, do not terminate any Americans here on our soil.
"Hope"?.........
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:48am PT
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Maybe W could actually do some good right now?
Republicans won’t listen to Obama on this score, but they might heed George W. Bush, who still holds sway with the party. He doesn’t need to say anything new or novel. He just needs to remind his party that there’s more to politics than winning—that some victories aren’t worth the cost to the country.
“America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country,” said Bush in his remarks at the Islamic Center in September 2001. “Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/george_w_bush_needs_to_speak_to_republicans_the_former_president_should.html
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:53am PT
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DAMN, the chief - you are like a rabid dog.
CMac - please....do something to protect the citizenry of Supertopo.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 20, 2015 - 07:57am PT
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So Dirtbag, what is the above going to do to "contain" these ISIS motherfkers??
How many more innocent humans globally have to die before you all come to terms with the reality of it.
You people are all so juiced up on all the anti-repub shet and it's beyond pathetic.
Shet is going to happen here soon, very soon. That is a given. How many will be affected is up in the air. But it will happen. After it does, you all will just be finger pointing at some repub and put NO blame on your Champion of Hope and Change. None!
Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
Nov 20, 2015 - 07:53am PT
DAMN, the chief - you are like a rabid dog.
Sad.... But so denying typical.
BRUSSELS — Once a happy-go-lucky student at one of Brussels’ most prestigious high schools, Abdelhamid Abaaoud morphed into Belgium’s most notorious jihadist, a zealot so devoted to the cause of holy war that he recruited his 13-year-old brother to join him in Syria.
The child of Moroccan immigrants who grew up in the Belgian capital’s scruffy and multiethnic Molenbeek-Saint-Jean neighbourhood, the fugitive, in his late 20s, was identified by French authorities on Monday as the presumed mastermind of the attacks last Friday in Paris that killed 129 people and injured hundreds.
These motherfkers mean business and all you people can do is keep posting denying finger pointing ridiculous crap. Amazing.....
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:11am PT
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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Chief, I don't think anyone is denying that the ISIS group means business. What some of us find disturbing is the fearmongering that may very well get some of our community members who happen to be Muslim killed.
I remember how it was after 911. This one jeans shop near my home, once an active shop, came screeching to a halt with traffic as people peeked inside, saw the brown-skinned shop clerk and turned away. When I would go in that shop, I would usually talk with owner and when the topic of lost business came up, it was so clear that his heart had been broken by the prejudice.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:23am PT
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So, Happi, if you had been on the Titanic I suppose you would have objected to the captain
telling you to get in a lifeboat?
" Oh, Capitan, don't harsh my vibe!"
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:28am PT
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Here are a few U.S. State Department statistics to get the pot boiling again:
Syrian refugees admitted to the U.S in 2015 as of 11/18/2015:
2,224 of which 367 of 884 were males of military age (14-40). 92% were Sunni Muslims, and 2.4 % Christians. One atheist, and 8 Jehovah's Witnesses, not included as Christians.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:30am PT
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Yeah, I can empathize with Happi; it's really only the 99% of these f*#ks that give the rest a bad name...
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John M
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 08:30am PT
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Its that kind of thing that helps foster the creation of terrorist. When you disenfranchise an entire group of people because of what a few do, then you create the environment from which terrorists come.
If we follow Chiefs logic, then perhaps we need to shut down the military, since that is where some terrorists have come from in the past.
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On another note, just what do you want Obama to do Chief?
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And please don't misunderstand me. I do understand that there are deep seated issues in the middle east.
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