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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 11, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
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The black market dollars are bringing even more. People are getting desperate
with almost 30% inflation. Some small B&B's will only accept cash dollars.
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yanqui
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Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 11, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
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Black market dollars are about 1:12, however I seriously doubt you can get a coffee with media lunas in a place like the Recoleta for less than 40 pesos. I would verify this on internet, except no one in Argentina puts prices in internet, because with 40% annual inflation the prices go up almost daily. Last time I went to Buenos Aires, about a year ago, to renew my daughter's passport, we ate at that place in your picture and spent about 500 pesos for a light lunch (three people). The bus tickets from Balcarce cost me more than the tickets for the bullet train from Paris to Brussels, that I bought last February. In spite of a 100% devaluation since 2012, things are not very cheap in Argentina (but the black market dollar does help tourists).
PS: here is an article from "La Nación" that says the price of a small coffee (which is very small, see picture) and no media lunas in La Biela in January 2013 costs between 15 and 18 pesos. Since there has been a major devaluation and about 60% inflation since the article was published, that means a small coffee would probably cost about 25 pesos. Add media lunas and my estimate of 40 pesos should be about right (a larger coffee with milk would be more expensive).
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1547131-tomar-un-cafe-un-habito-porteno-que-puede-triplicar-su-costo-de-un-barrio-a-otro
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 11, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
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Go Germany!
Susan
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jul 11, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
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Italian Nicola Rizzoli will referee the final. He hit a trifecta with Argentina, refereeing their third match in this cup. He did Argentina-Belgium and Argentina-Ghana in the group stage. He also did Spain-Netherlands.
This makes a UEFA ref for every match Argentina played against a Euro team, and the third Argentina final refereed by an Italian referee.
Most notably, an Italian ref did the 1978 final when Argentina beat The dutch on 2 Mario Kempes goals.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 11, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
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germany sucks
ARGENTINA UBER ALLES
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jul 12, 2014 - 11:18am PT
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ok, but todays match is here today.
Who's watching this game today?
It's not that it will matter to anyone except the.....
Who does 3rd and 4th places matter to again?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 12, 2014 - 11:37am PT
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I'll be watching it!
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Jul 12, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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I'll be rooting for Argentina tomorrow mainly because I want Messi to succeed. IMO, Messi is an infinitely better role model for Argentine youth than Maradona.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jul 12, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
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@tuolumne_tradster - sounds like someone wants to change some foundational beliefs for our friends to the south... I see your point and agree, though I had not thought about this kind of change (the Maradona angle) taking place for some time after Messi ends his game.
I too am hopeful for an Argentina win. I just think it would be good for the nation's people.
But I fear that the Germans will have a tight game to play against Argentina.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Jul 12, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
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Jingy: my only point really is that although Maradona was one of the greatest futbol players of all time, his legacy will always be tainted by this...
IMO, the modern day Maradona is Luis Suarez. Messi is a great player and deserves the same respect as Maradona.
Edit:
Wow, the Brazil vs Netherlands game did not start off well for the hosts.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:07pm PT
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TT - agreed. There does seem to be a bit of dissonance in that Maradona goal.
Not sure I can agree on that Suarez statement.... That guy's a cannibal on the field in front of cameras... To me that's just not true to the game.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
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For those of you wondering...
If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding him inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick.
P.55 FIFA LOTG
One wonders why it wasn't a last man DOGSO send off.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
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Sheesh. Why would a defender head the ball to the 12 yard spot?
Perfect summation of Brasil's woes.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
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Wow, more shoddy defending by Brasil. 9 goals in 105 minutes? Yikes!
I must say that throughout these games I've enjoyed these announcers,
Champion and Robson, the most. Robson really gives an insightful and honest
analysis. Macca is no less honest but not as eloquent. I've also really
enjoyed Efan Ekoku and Alejandro Moreno.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
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I sure hope Brasil will score before Netherlands makes it 3 nil
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Jul 12, 2014 - 01:59pm PT
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Who does 3rd and 4th places matter to again?
Too bad the teams playing this match don't want to be here. They consider it a shame rather than an honor to be disputing their ultimate ranking. Would way rather see two teams who want it. Just ask any of those teams who are already back home if they'd like to play another game on the World Cup stage?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jul 12, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
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I sure hope Brasil will score before Netherlands makes it 3 nil
That ship has now sailed. Brasil is just a bad team defensively and offensively without Neymar.
They gave up two sitters and a stupid PK.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Jul 12, 2014 - 03:07pm PT
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While I don't know a lot about soccer, I have enjoyed this world cup. I do have a thought. Given that we only do this every four years, why not make the final two out of three?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 12, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
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That Algerian ref was a disgrace, not that it really mattered.
Wow, see all the Brasilians applauding the Dutch?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Jul 12, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
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Reilly: agree RE Efan Ekoku...very intelligent and articulate. Also liked hearing from van Nistelrooy & Ballach. I really didn't like Taylor Twellman.
Lorenzo: I agree, this Brasilian team just didn't come close to their predecessors. I was just feeling sorry for them. Brasil, the 2nd dynasty to collapse during this WC.
What do you think...Arjen Robben = MVP?
Also, what about allowing additional substitutes if the game goes into 2 15-min overtimes?
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