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apogee
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Nov 30, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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'Jay Gee'
Seriously?
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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More hypocrisy from our great leaders
While millions of Americans struggle with the pitfalls of Obamacare and are frustrated by bungled government health care exchanges, Obamacare co-architect and cheerleader Harry Reid has exempted many of his staff from buying insurance through the exchanges.
In September, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Reid told reporters, "Let's stop these really juvenile political games -- the one dealing with health care for Senators and House members and our staff. We are going to be part of exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that."
According to Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson, under the Affordable Care Act a Senator can allow that their committee and leadership staffers keep their attractive federal employee insurance plans. Reid has exercised that option. Jentleson said, “We are just following the law."
Republicans will be targeting Reid for his hypocrisy, with one Republican senate aide remarking, "I'm sure that regular Americans who just lost their insurance will feel comforted to know that Senator Reid's staff gets to keep their government plan.”
Reid is alone among top congressional leaders to grant such privilege to his staff. Congressional aides for GOP House Speaker John Boehner, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell all encouraged their staff to get their insurance from the exchanges.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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rSin, setting aside the fact that your quotes are out of context, those quotes themselves refer only to travel, not the act of owning or operating a vehicle. You, me, your granny, and everybody else we know has the right to travel by automobile wherever they wish without license, registration or insurance, but the driver of the vehicle does not.
TE
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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I was just notified by my dental insurance company--they're probably cancelling my policy and will have to upgrade me to carry pediatric
dental insurance too--hmmm. I've no kids. . .
Okay, there are some dumb things about the ACA. . .
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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If you really believe what you say, maybe you should work to elect more Republicans, Dr F.
You really think the Republicans could do a good job at this?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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I was just notified by my dental insurance company--they're probably cancelling my policy and will have to upgrade me to carry pediatric
dental insurance too--hmmm. I've no kids. . .
Okay, there are some dumb things about the ACA. . .
Hi Steve, I have the ACA in front of me, all 2700 pages, of which I have read twice now.
Please direct to the page, section, of the ACA mandates dental care, or coverage, or anything?
thanks in advance, I must have missed that entire section in my readings..................
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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While millions of Americans struggle with the pitfalls of Obamacare and are frustrated by bungled government health care exchanges, Obamacare co-architect and cheerleader Harry Reid has exempted many of his staff from buying insurance through the exchanges.
I did like reid early 2000's but after a while he's turned into a grumpy man!
this country is f*#ked once the interest rates goes up
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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this country is f*#ked once the interest rates goes up
Good thing they won't then.
Curt
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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And is Nevada's economy Harry Reid's fault?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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The NRA should not give politicians money because they support the NRA
it was wrong of the NRA to contribute to Harry Reid's political campaign because he arranged
for a new shooting range to be built in Nevada
just another example of money buying our politicians,.....nothing is sacred anymore
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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actually Ron
Harry Reid does not work for Nevada
he is employed and his salary is paid by the Federal government
he is charged by our Constitution as a US Senator to represent all of America
in addition to that, people like it when he brings in pork and spending to Nevada
Senators don't create jobs, private people do, like you being self employed and doing better
and maybe hiring a helper some day
see how it works now?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Reid sure is doing a piss-poor job of representing the majority of Americans who don't like Obamacare.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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No, Chaz...the great majority of Americans like the impacts of the ACA- they like the fact that they can keep their child on their own policy until they are 25 y/o; they like the fact that they can't be turned down for coverage; they like the fact that insurance companies can't boot you out when you make a claim...
What they don't like is that the website didn't work worth a feck....and now that's pretty much fixed, too.
The ACA is here for good...get used to it.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Wonder why Hillary is SILENT these days?
Being associated with ACA a is a political negative these days and it is only going to get worse as more folks figure out what ACA really means for them.
Hollywood idiots have gone silent too.
The only certainty is the great majority of folks with middle class incomes will pay WAY MORE for health care and the healthcare conglomerates will be MORE profitable.
Stocks of health care co's are going pretty darn good these days...wonder why?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Why should they?
Us Taxpayers only provide the politicians about a trillion dollars a year.
Insurance company lobbyists fly politicians out to Branson MO on their private jets and give them bass boats for voting like Reid.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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There are shiteloads of polls asking about overall general impressions of the ACA...and they are indeed generally in opposition. The bottom line is that there are a lot of people polled whose views won't be changed one way or the other, but there are quite a few whi don't really know about the actual provisions of the ACA at all. This is a clear failure of the way it's been politically implemented.
Not that it will matter one bit to you, but here you go:
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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That, and nobody likes to be lied to, especially by the President.
And people don't like having to find new doctors.
They don't like having to pay more - for less service.
Nobody likes to have insurance plans they liked and were perfectly happy with being cancelled.
I don't know anybody who wants to go to the government - hat in hand - and beg for subsidies.
The Democrats ( most of them ) like it. That's it. The rest of the country can spot a turd when they see it.
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