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part-time communist
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:09am PT
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I was wronged by a man 3-4 years ago. He was the first guy I had sex with, I fell in love with him, and I was hurt really badly and unfairly. I was involved with him for a while. The pain from it was nothing I had ever experienced before. I did not feel any need to go off on him and make accusations for what he did wrong publicly, and he is known in the climbing community. It could have damaged his reputation big time.
Smearing someones name out in the public just because you have personal issues and a personal grudge against them is just distasteful, this stuff should be discussed privately.
The first time I met matt was this past July, and this was only for a 2.5 month stretch. The first 2 weeks that he got here, I was finishing up my final summer session for grad classes for my masters program, I was taking a full load (4 classes, clinical practicum, and clinical training hours at my site) and was busy finishing finals, doing class presentations, and writing reports, as well as critical dentist appointments near Pismo Beach to take care of which made driving to the mountains not very feasible (700 mile loops in 2 days from LA-Lone Pine-Pismo Beach-LA is NOT feasible nor desirable). From the beginning of September and onward, I had 2 remaining classes left in my masters program + clinical training each week which required going back to LA for Mondays and being busy with that stuff from 9am-10pm all day nonstop. Matt worked around this slight inconvenience, and I really am appreciative for that.
Sometimes, especially in the beginning of his stay, I would just have to take a break from him for reasons I will not share because I will not bash someone in public. Luckily, things started shaping up a bit better towards the end of his stay, we spent 2 consecutive weeks in Arizona having a blast. I never led him on sexually. Before I met him, I never sent him a single sexual pic, I never talked "dirty" with him online. I simply stated "I will have to meet with you first to see if there is any interest." I knew in my head that there was a clear incompatibility with the education discrepancy between us, and I did point that out to him on more than one ocassion and how this could be a serious problem.
After meeting him, I have repeatedly stated to him very clearly that I am not interested in him sexually, but I can keep climbing with him. Even the first week of having met, I never made any sexual gestures to him, I never flirted with him, I never made any physical contact, I established clear boundaries in the FIRST week he was here. I gave him the option of taking off and spending his vacation with other friends. He repeatedly insisted that he only wants to climb with me, telling me "I'd rather climb with you." The only thing I have criticized about him is his level of education and questionable language competency in written/verbal expression.
I was never "involved" with Matt (aka the kiwi dude), like I was with my ex who wronged me so badly. I was enraged, my ex was my first and my world shattered to pieces from the pain, he hurt me so bad. Still, I did not feel the need to start public campaign against him to "take him down", to "get revenge". We talked considerably in private to the best of our abilities to try to "resolve our issues".
Passion, whether it is of the positive or negative kind, is passion and it has a burning desire to be expressed. I can't blame Matt for having passions, but going so far as making false accusations about me is just taking things too far.
I can get further into such things as mental distortions-ex.// denial, delusion. But the place for this is a private 50 min session in a private practice setting with a licensed therapist, for however long is deemed appropriate, NOT the internet forums.
(I made my point in 3 posts-and 1 of them was expressing my surprise, the second was about the san diego zoo, and the third was making my point/response in ONE post vs. Matt's 70+ posts. Makes you wonder who is the confused one around here?)
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minimeee
Social climber
Nu Joysee
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:29am PT
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I was wronged by a man 3-4 years ago. He was the first guy I had sex with, I fell in love with him, and I was hurt really badly and unfairly. I was involved with him for a while. The pain from it was nothing I had ever experienced before. I did not feel any need to go off on him and make accusations for what he did wrong publicly, and he is known in the climbing community. It could have damaged his reputation big time.
Smearing someones name out in the public just because you have personal issues and a personal grudge against them is just distasteful, this stuff should be discussed privately.
The first time I met matt was this past July, and this was only for a 2.5 month stretch. Oftentimes, I would have to take a break from him for reasons I will not share because I will not bash someone in public. Luckily, things started shaping up a bit better towards the end of his stay, we spent 2 consecutive weeks in Arizona having a blast. I never led him on sexually. Before I met him, I never sent him a single sexual pic, I never talked "dirty" with him online. I simply stated "I will have to meet with you first to see if there is any interest." I knew in my head that there was a clear incompatibility with the education discrepancy between us, and I did point that out to him on more than one ocassion and how this could be a serious problem.
After meeting him, I have repeatedly stated to him very clearly that I am not interested in him sexually, but I can keep climbing with him. Even the first week of having met, I never made any sexual gestures to him, I never flirted with him, I never made any physical contact, I established clear boundaries in the FIRST week he was here. I gave him the option of taking off and spending his vacation with other friends. He repeatedly insisted that he only wants to climb with me, telling me "I'd rather climb with you." The only thing I have criticized about him is his level of education and questionable language competency in written/verbal expression.
I was never "involved" with Matt (aka the kiwi dude), like I was with my ex who wronged me so badly. I was enraged, my ex was my first and my world shattered to pieces from the pain, he hurt me so bad. Still, I did not feel the need to start public campaign against him to "take him down", to "get revenge". We talked considerably in private to the best of our abilities to try to "resolve our issues".
Passion, whether it is of the positive or negative kind, is passion and it has a burning desire to be expressed. I can't blame Matt for having passions, but going so far as making false accusations about me is just taking things too far.
I can get further into such things as mental distortions-ex.// denial, delusion. But the place for this is a private 50 min session in a private practice setting with a licensed therapist, for however long is deemed appropriate, NOT the internet forums.
as bvb said, "most guys have a functioning and effective bullshit detector."
ptc you are full of it. word gets around girl. your credibility rates a big Zero.
to quote a famous rapper, i think it wuz Eazy E - "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
ps yes, you do need a therapist
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part-time communist
climber
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:53am PT
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From a different site, from the same matt:
"maybe that is why i have been drunk for the last 4 days? na i am just saying what needs to come out about daria,
the other day i drank ten cans of bourbon at work, trying to forget about daras lies."
Well, I guess that explains the crazyness. Kills a few brain cells, compulsive and excessive drinking.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:56am PT
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Darija's post above looks honest to me (about being hurt by her ex).
Obviously, Matt is still attracted to her, although it's more like love/hate now. It's hard to let go. There is something about shared risk and climbing with the opposite sex. It can feel sort of like rescuing a damsel in distress.
It does seem a little dishonest to say "come over to the US and we'll see if there is an attraction", if you are really thinking "no way, the education difference will stop me from feeling serious." But it could be the case that she was trying to be friendly and didn't think he was serious about showing up. Like bvb said, Matt was expecting too much, too.
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fsck
climber
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:56am PT
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Wait, they make bourbon in cans?
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Wäyno
Big Wall climber
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Dec 15, 2011 - 04:59am PT
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Darija is a well known crazy in So Cal hiking circles.
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Mister_Roborto
Trad climber
Queensland
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Dec 15, 2011 - 05:02am PT
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R.I.P Eazy E
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Dec 15, 2011 - 05:11am PT
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If people want a guide to the timeline, I found this:
http://www.cmc.net.nz/node/142
Canterbury Mountain Club
Climbs Log
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15 October 2011 - Montezuma's Head, Arizona - Matt Glichrist(Dara Malin)
14 October 2011 - Mt Kino, Arizona - Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin)
9 October 2011 - Picacho peak, Arizona - Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin)
7 October 2011 - Baboquivari peak, Arizona - Matt Gilchrist (Dara Malin)
5 October 2011 - Weavers Needle, Arizona - Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin)
3 October 2011 - Mt Whitney, CA - Matt Gilchrist
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29/30 September 2011 - White Mountain/Headley
Peak/Mt Hogue/Mt Dubois/Jump off Peak/Moutgomery Peak/Boundary Peak, White Mountain range, C.A Desert peaks-Matt Gilchrist, Dara Malin.
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18 September 2011-Mt Whitney,East Buttress(East Sierra)Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin)
14 September 2011-Mt Machesna-Castle Crags-Pine Peak (Machesna Mountain Wilderness) Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin)
12 September 2011 - Thor peak(East Sierra) Matt Gilchrist
7 September 2011 - Laurel Mountain(East Sierra) Matt Gilchrist
6 september 2011 - Lone Pine Peak (East Sierra) Matt Gilchrist
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28 August 2011- North Peak (Yosemite National Park)- Matt Gilchrist
21 August 2011- Mt Olympus day hike 22 hours 44 miles, Cascades National park. Matt Gilchrist (Dara Malin)
17 August 2011- Mt Torment- Matt Gilchrist (Dara Malin)Cascades National Park
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12 August 2011- Mt Shuksan - Matt Gilchrist (Dara Malin) Cascades National Park
11 August 2011- Mt Baker - Matt Gilchrist (Dara Malin)Cascades National Park
7 August 2011 - Starr King- Mt Clark (Yosemite National Park)-Matt Gilchrist(Dara Malin-USA)
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Good bunch of climbs last summer!
and to keep the names straight:
Matt Gilchrist = jonnyfreeski = KiwiFromKali
Darija Malinauskas = Dara Malin = part-time communist
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 15, 2011 - 05:12am PT
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As far as trainwrecks go, this is high speed rail
I guess most people lose their mind once or twice, but geezz
Peace
Karl
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 15, 2011 - 06:07am PT
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Kiwi/johnnyfree ski is the all time creeepyiest stalker ever experienced on the taco. Weird sh#t man. PTC may well be a headcase but who cares? this stalker dude is creepy..
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part-time communist
climber
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Dec 15, 2011 - 06:48am PT
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stalker dude is creepy..
I would agree with this. The level of obsession and extremely close surveillance/watch over me that is being exhibited by Matt has already reached or is reaching borderline pathological, coming from my clinically trained background. Further and more detailed assessment would be needed to make any decisive conclusions.
One example: I have not hung out with a single person for 2 weeks, I go to the san diego zoo with a friend yesterday to celebrate my graduation and to just see all the cool animals, and matt (who is on the other side of the world and is not even involved with me) completely goes ape-shit crazy in response to this, and it triggers this drunken posting which he has engaged in nonstop I see throughout the entire day-just count how many posts there are. He is on the other side of the world and oftentimes knows what times I come home and would then message me on facebook informing me of the times, etc.
Lesson learned: don't have friends, and don't go to zoos!!!
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Dec 15, 2011 - 08:05am PT
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Here is the lesson.....
Grow UP ... This is America !
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Dec 15, 2011 - 08:08am PT
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What's wrong with zoos?
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Dec 15, 2011 - 08:50am PT
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Wow, this thread is impressive. jonnypeeandski is apparently very butt hurt. He displays all the signs of a jilted man boy. Sounds like he got in over his head, got played by a woman, and is now screaming fowl.
I love the "public service announcements" to warn us off the evils of this woman.
Jesus, grow up.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 15, 2011 - 10:28am PT
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Wait, they make bourbon in cans?
That's what I said. Only interesting thing in this thread, aside from IHPlastic's sexy mama at the oven...is that Audry?
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Dos XX
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 15, 2011 - 10:44am PT
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Meanwhile, as the piton turns...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 15, 2011 - 11:00am PT
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Nice nips.
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part-time communist
climber
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Dec 15, 2011 - 11:08am PT
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Lesson learned: Don't invite random dudes from across the planet to live with you for extended periods. You think?
Lesson learned: mind your own business.
I never came on here to start talking trash about anyone or to complain about anything. I made a general response to the 70+ attacks posts being made against me by a lunatic. But I am not complaining about anything or regretting anything.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Dec 15, 2011 - 11:40am PT
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Matt, it is over and done with move on. You are coming across as a pissy little wanker in a playground. You are the first person from New Zealand I have encountered that makes me not want to go climb there.
Pathetic perseveration on a public forum is not a aphrodisiac Poindexter.
Get a butt plug. Just not a BLUE one. That's a taint even Locker would bristle at.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 15, 2011 - 11:47am PT
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I never came on here to start talking trash about anyone or to complain about anything.
Yet you keep posting and keeping the soap opera going.
Do us all a favor and leave.
It's been entertaining, but the crazy has eclipsed the funny.
Take your traveling junk show somewhere else.
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