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philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
It's getting Hairy Boehner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb-Bpn5O-e0&feature=youtu.be
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:12pm PT
Just reflecting the debt ceiling debate, by the time Nov. 2012 rolls around, the buck will stop at the Oval Office and Obama will be finished.

Because hey.. whats more important? The truth and fixing our problems?


or destroying Obama?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:17pm PT
Right. Because Mitt Romney, who will be your nominee, who enriched himself by laying off American workers, passed legislation the was the model for Health Care Reform, and has more flip-flops than a Wal Mart in Florida on the 4th of July...will provide such an inspiring alternative.

I'm sure in a time of economic turmoil with a jobs crisis, the American people will rush to support a man who's oft-touted "business experience" involved screwing over the american working man to line his own pockets. And that's without even getting into the mormonism albatross and general weird and creepy vibe the dude gives off. Bain Capital's record will be enough to sink that hack.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
Obama has virtually nothing to do with the bullet train. And thats just bullshit that we can't fix "anything" while Obama is in office. He is more willing to compromise then anyone, thus that should mean to you that we could fix many problems.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
Clearly we, the American citizenry do not matter to the pasty white fat asses on wallstreet. Their real concern is they just can't have an uppity toby in the WHITE house.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:29pm PT
^^^ No surprise there, you are ever wrong. ^^^


Hey DaftRat, don't be so eager. A sinking ship drowns all rats. Even those who've hoarded all the stolen cheese.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
The whole bullet train was started well before Obama was in office.

Good grief Jeff. You can't be this stupid.

Going by your logic, Bush must have been responsible for the bullet train.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
Hey Fats, your party has "jumped the shark".
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
Your arguments are all black and white thinking Jeff. According to you all socialism is bad.

So I guess we should privatize the military, the police, and the fire departments.

I wonder how much that would cost. Probably triple what we pay for them now. At least for the same level of service.

John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:40pm PT
I don't care who started it,

That is your basic problem Jeff. Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. You should care who started what. Its the only way you will learn and its the only way this country will overcome its problems.

Blaming Obama for the mess the country is in is foolish. It ignores the reasons we are in the mess. Spend spend spend Republicans, plus start new wars while cutting taxes and deregulate everything.

All foolish mistakes. Yes Clinton signed that bill which helped lead to our current financial mess, but the bill was created by Republicans, who have touted deregulation for years. Well look what it got us.

but you want to go right back to it because you don't care how we got into this mess. You just want to blame Obama.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:46pm PT
As for caring about the past.

It is true that for years democrats spent without really understanding how things would be paid for. Many of us learned our lessons, which led to Clinton working towards balancing our budget and starting to pay off our national debt.

But then we got Bush and Cheney, with Cheney's "debt doesn't matter" philosophy, and bushes start two wars while cutting taxes which means our children will have to pay for those wars, and the debt grew like crazy and we are in the mess that we have right now.

But you want to blame that on Obama.

That is pure foolishness.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Aug 9, 2011 - 02:58pm PT
uh-oh, if barry has lost richard cohen...well, you know the rest:


"Westen faults Obama for his lack of storytelling abilities. But this is because Obama is himself the story. Consider for a moment that Obama’s account of how he had to fight to get medical coverage for his dying mother is not exactly true. The White House’s response to this revelation was grudging silence. It did not dispute the story and it soon died. This was because the Obama story is not what he says but who he is. That remains unchanged, and so the very people who would pummel a Republican for such a mischaracterization were silent about Obama’s. Obama did not deign to reply. He does not have to."


cohen is as liberal as they come and, even in this same column, is guilty of the idolatry he criticizes; but, at least, cohen acknowledges the media's lapdog, water-carrying, worshipful self immolation
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 9, 2011 - 03:04pm PT
cohen is as liberal as they come

The WaPo's Richard Cohen? You are as delusional as they come if you believe that. Cohen is a laughingstock among 99% of political observers, and 100% of the left. Among the "opinion elite" Cohen ranks right up there with David Brooks and Thomas Friedman as in the "who the f*#k did these know-nothing as#@&%es blow to get their jobs, because on merit they wouldn't get an internship at the Podunk Daily Star"
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 9, 2011 - 03:29pm PT
philo,

I was wrong.


The evil one


Well that's a start Jeff, only 11 more steps to go.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 10, 2011 - 11:22am PT
Dems fail in WI

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 10, 2011 - 12:39pm PT
Hypocrisy: Embedded in Republican's DNA

"Despite repeatedly decrying the evils of federal spending, records obtained by the Huffington Post show Bachmann repeatedly requested money for her district even from agencies and programs she has vilified in her speeches. They include the stimulus program that she branded "fantasy economics" as well as the Environmental Protection Agency she's said should be renamed the "Job Killing Agency."

Among the issues she discussed in letters with various federal agencies were a transportation project in Waite Park, MN that had received nearly $2.6 billion in stimulus funding. In one "urgent" letter in June 2009 to Transportation Secretary Ray Lahood she asked the DOT to reverse a decision that would threaten the project, and wrote the next month that she was "pleased to learn" that her own state transportation agency was not going to "pull the nearly $2.8 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) funding set aside for the project." In September 2009, she wrote six separate letters to DOT requesting federal funds for six separate projects in her district.

Perhaps most out of character were her interactions with the EPA, however. In 2007, she signed onto a joint letter with other Minnesota politicians asking the agency to help fund rural water initiatives in the state. In 2010, she asked for help with a $270,806 grant application to replace two vehicles at local bus company as part of the EPA's Clean Diesel Grant Program.

Despite Bachmann's extensive requests for federal cash, the report concluded that she was largely an ineffective advocate for her district, having obtained the least stimulus funding of any district in Minnesota. "

bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Aug 10, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
what liberalism hath wrought:

http://www.projo.com/news/content/ANTHONY_SIONNI_08-09-11_KLPJDUM_v24.39a03.html


only a liberal would complain about having a heated home, a car, food on the table, weekly steak dinners out, pastries, cell phone, internet service, and cable...
















ALL PAID BY FOR BY OTHER PEOPLE!!!

the irony? he's complaining about taxes!
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Aug 11, 2011 - 12:17pm PT
perfect:

first, barry's doj allows mexican drug cartels to purchase guns in america then allows those guns to be taken to mexico where they are used to murder several people including an AMERICAN border patrol officer; now, barry's doj claims that the family of the murdered border patrol officer are "not crime victims"


apogee

climber
Aug 11, 2011 - 02:31pm PT
I heard Rick Perry is gonna throw his hat in the ring this weekend at the Ames straw poll- gonna take advantage of the opportunity to steal the spotlight...

Whaddya think, bookworm?
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 11, 2011 - 03:02pm PT
From today's LA Times:
Re "Amazon stumps outside stores," Business, Aug. 6

I am a visitor to California and a lifelong Texan. Imagine my surprise to encounter an anti-tax signature collector in San Diego arguing that California will lose jobs to Texas if taxes increase.

We Texans have already got all the minimum-wage, no-benefit jobs we can handle, along with lousy roads, a 19th century school system, a high poverty rate, hunger, lack of medical care and the highest rate of uninsured people in the nation. Our education system is declining, and much of the new jobs pay minimum wage. Texas is becoming third-world.

California has so much of what Texas lacks. Be happy to pay your taxes because you are getting so much for them. Tighten your belt and preserve the California you have while you can. Don't destroy California; you will regret it later.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/
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