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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
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Just exactly what, pray tell, is a Woodson V1+? Does such an animal even exist?
What are the dates you're going to be here again bvb (or is that a secret because your planning to snake that thin crack thing - assuming you can find it again)? I'd like to eyeball your operation but I'm not sure I can make the dates unless it's the end of the month.
Sit back and watch is all I can do now because I ain't there. And now that route areas are finally opening up I think I'm about to transition to going to my top secret crags (hahaha), so I'm likely done with Woodson till fall.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Just exactly what, pray tell, is a Woodson V1+?
errr, that'd -- for me -- be the hike up the road.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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No secret here, tomorrow morning Andrew and I will be meeting @ 0900 on 67 and heading up to "The Project" / Mosh Pit. Come one, come all!
Edit: Oh, as in chat rooms, sharing Your ASL upon first entering, I'll extend some "common courtesy" (whatever that is in this instance) and let everyone know my Age / Sex / Level, Climbing, as to qualify in order to try "The Project" myself...48/M/5.11, and as to not threaten the working parties said "project" and potential first ascent/naming rights (I'm deducting that this is what the uproar is over). Now, in Andrew's case, his credentials are a different story. I hope its okay that "my source" shows me where this boulder is.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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hey gary, has the guy you are going with ever been to this thing before?
there are two possible answers.
1) yes. if so, then why didn't he go back for years? and why does he suddenly want to go back now?
2) no. if this is the case, then the answer speaks for itself (see gonamuck's next-to-last post).
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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we thought so.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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"Reginald "Dog""... "Top Rope Bolts at Woodson," ring a bell Bob?
Correction: Per a phone call tonight at 17:07, Duration: 1:53:09...
"The "Mosh Pit" was the name given to the area that the boulder is situated in. "Caught in the Mosh", was the name given to the OW. You put your head first into the crack, which eventually spits you out at 3/4 height, then you fight for every 1/16th of an inch of progress the last six feet of the climb!" says Troy Wold of Ramona. "Come on, don't give up," Troy recalls Rick Piggot encouraging him from below during the failed attempt. "You're so wet and slathered at that point that nothing works! Levis are definitely a must."
When asked about the seam Troy admits, "That finger crack/seam was WAY above my head, so I never got on it. Donny Bedford, Tom Lindner and Tom Gibson would probably have more history on it."
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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What "ulterior motive" are you speculating that I called Chris for Ron? I'll answer that and I'll bet you're way off the mark...For the record, I called Chris because of his ability to climb hard and I'd like to see him climb, and to climb that seam as well, period. If Chris ticks this thing, then he ticks it. There are other problems up on the mountain, already climbed by Chris and others, unnamed, witnessed by few, and will someday be rediscovered and climbed by someone else, claiming to be the first and it'll remain that way for future gen's to tell stories about, and those like Chris will never say a word. Stop your whining boys, and that includes you ROBERT.
Define "street cred"? Why does that ring of the young rebellious punks I live around here on Dictionary Hill, in the "Hood" here in Spring Valley? Aren't you around fifty five now Bob?
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Sarcasm only perpetuates the rancor. Heres an idea. Instead of mocking and ridiculing opinions or comments that you dont agree with, try to relate and understand where they are coming from, and why they might think that way.
Open your mind to the fact that the opinions of others are just as valid as your own, and when someone disagrees with you it doesnt automatically make them your enemy.
Give others' comments due consideration. Think your reply through and word it so that it accurately expresses your feelings. Be candid and try to leave emotion out of it. Lets talk instead of hurl insults and get all pissy.
I will add my vote for respect, courtesy and goodwill in our little community. What goes around comes around.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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OT:
We call it "Hypoxic Irritability" in the field, mainly associating it with "chronic smokers" who, from smoking for long periods of their lives, inhale carbon monoxide produced in the smoke. Carbon monoxide aheres up to three hundred times greater than oxygen to the hemaglobin in the blood thus causing "hypoxia," or lack of oxygen to the body, including the brain. Not having enough oxygen to the brain causes irratability, and over time, often becomes part of their mentation, or the way they act.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Yeah, I have my "peaks and valleys" too Ron and it was my intent to "perpetuate the rancor". Thanks for the humble reminder.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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"Reginald "Dog""..."Top Rope Bolts at Woodson," ring a bell Bob?
actually, no. fill us in.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Just asking. Thought you might have some input.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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I have no idea gary, and wouldnt disrespect you by presuming to know what you are thinking. I had nothing specific in mind, there are many possibilities, and if you will read my remarks carefully you will see that I did not accuse you of having ulterior motives.
Calm down and read whats written rather than trying to read something into it. Theres nothing between the lines, i go to great lengths to express myself as clearly and accurately as possible.
I have said plenty about this already, and I stand by my words.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Oh, and peace, Gary. We can still be friends cant we.
Amen to "peaks and valleys" we should all probably try to give each other a little more slack, benefit of doubt etc. I know I need to.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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goatboy, dont quit doing what you do, you ROCK
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p-owed
Trad climber
Ramona ca
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I lived up on Dictionary hill. Back in the late 70s early 80s. But i was like 6 or 7 when we came to Ramona. My Family built allot of the house up their Do you still got your encyclopedia?
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Havent been able to get out for almost 2 weeks, first due to a bum left shoulder, and this week, work work work.
I havent heard from bvb, does anyone know if he actually made it down?
Big bump to keep the thread alive...
Keep posting on what youre doing on the hill!
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frog-e
Trad climber
Imperial Beach California
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Well, I have a few memories to share of climbing there.
Mostly thoughts of the wonderful talent I got to spend
Time with rock climbing: Michael Paul, Rick Piggot, Keith
Brueckner, Eric Beck and so many others...
Ran into Eric in Jtree a few weeks ago, on a trail out by
Echo rock. A. Flood of memories came back. We climbed
together a fair bit back then, and I would love to share
some little stories about this.
Ok, more later...
:-)
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Adam Mashouri
Trad climber
Encinitas, CA
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Had a blast up on the hill for "Eliot's last day" of woodson sends. Big crew, awesome vibe, perfect weather, what more could you ask for? Here are a few shots from the sending fun.
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