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WBraun

climber
May 30, 2010 - 01:43am PT
Well you're a thread gerbil, you should know that one .....
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2010 - 10:34pm PT
A great conversation for scientists and for believers both on Internet radio. Very interesting topic "Are we alone in the Universe?" . . .

Unbelievable? 17 Apr 2010 - Are we alone in the universe? Paul Davies & John Lennox
http://www.premierradio.org.uk/listen/ondemand.aspx?mediaid={CD6D82AC-9A89-41D7-8D9E-F6712260177F}


What does it take for life to get going in our universe? Is there intelligence in the stars or right under our nose? Renowned astrophysicist Paul Davies chats to Oxford Professor of Mathematics John Lennox.

A popular science author, Davies is also the Chair of the SETI post detection task force. His latest book "The Eerie Silence" which marks SETI's 50th anniversary examines the likelihood of the universe producing life elsewhere.

John Lennox is a Christian Mathematician and philosopher. He is the author of "God's Undertaker: has science buried God?" and has debated Richard Dawkins on several occasions.

Davies' work on the fine tuning of the universe for life has been sympathetic to theism. In this programme Lennox challenges Davies to look to design not just in cosmology but in the cell. They also chat about what the discovery of ET would mean for Christian theology.

For Paul Davies see http://cosmos.asu.edu/

For his book "The Eerie Silence" click here

For John Lennox see http://johnlennox.org/



Great listen :-))


Edit:

It is wonderful to hear 3 English gentleman talking, listening, and debating without anger but with respect. It would be nice if ST could do something similiar.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 31, 2010 - 12:25am PT
A recent view of the space alien rock circle on the farside of the Moon.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 31, 2010 - 01:48am PT

from the 70s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngvt9tPROzc

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2010 - 02:35am PT
Somewhere on this thread we got into this debate . . . so here is the latest. Pretty cool. Dawn sets a new record for acceleration of a Man-made spacecraft/probe.



http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-192


NASA's Dawn Spacecraft Fires Past Record for Speed Change

June 07, 2010


PASADENA, Calif.-- Deep in the heart of the asteroid belt, on its way to the first of the belt's two most massive inhabitants, NASA's ion-propelled Dawn spacecraft has eclipsed the record for velocity change produced by a spacecraft's engines.

The previous standard-bearer for velocity change, NASA's Deep Space 1, also impelled by ion propulsion, was the first interplanetary spacecraft to use this technology. The Deep Space 1 record fell on Saturday, June 5, when the Dawn spacecraft's accumulated acceleration over the mission exceeded 4.3 kilometers per second (9,600 miles per hour).

"We are using this amazing ion-engine technology as a stepping-stone to orbit and explore two of the asteroid belt's most mysterious objects, Vesta and Ceres," said Robert Mase, Dawn project manager from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

A spacecraft's change in velocity refers to its ability to change its path through space by using its own rocket engines. This measurement of change begins only after the spacecraft exits the last stage of the launch vehicle that hurled it into space.

To get to where it is in both the record books and the asteroid belt, the Dawn spacecraft had to fire its three engines – one at a time-- for a cumulative total of 620 days. In that time, it has used less than 165 kilograms (363 pounds) of xenon propellant. Over the course of its eight-plus-year mission, Dawn's three ion engines are expected to accumulate 2,000 days of operation -- 5.5 years of thrusting -- for a total change in velocity of more than 38,620 kilometers per hour (24,000 miles per hour).

"I am delighted that it will be Dawn that surpasses DS1's record," said Marc Rayman, chief engineer for the Dawn mission and a previous project manager for Deep Space 1."It is a tribute to all those involved in the design and operations of this remarkable spacecraft."

At first glance, Dawn's pedal-to-the-metal performance is a not-so-inspiring 0-to-97 kilometers per hour (0-to-60 miles per hour) in four days. But due to its incredible efficiency, it expends only 37 ounces of xenon propellant during that time. Then take into consideration that after those four days of full-throttle thrusting, it will do another four days, and then another four. By the end of 12 days, the spacecraft will have increased its velocity by more than 290 kilometers per hour (180 miles per hour), with more days and weeks and months of continuous thrusting to come. In one year's time, Dawn's ion propulsion system can increase the spacecraft's speed by 8,850 kilometers per hour (5,500 miles per hour), while consuming the equivalent of only 16 gallons of fuel.

"This is a special moment for the spacecraft team," said Dawn's principal investigator, Chris Russell of the University of California Los Angeles. "In only 407 days, our minds will be on another set of records, the data records that Dawn will transmit when we enter Vesta orbit."

Dawn's 4.8-billion-kilometer (3-billion-mile) odyssey includes exploration of asteroid Vesta in 2011 and 2012, and the dwarf planet Ceres in 2015. These two icons of the asteroid belt have been witness to much of our solar system's history. By using the same set of instruments at two separate destinations, scientists can more accurately formulate comparisons and contrasts. Dawn's science instrument suite will measure shape, surface topography and tectonic history, elemental and mineral composition, as well as seek out water-bearing minerals. In addition, the way the Dawn spacecraft orbits both Vesta and Ceres will be used to measure the celestial bodies' masses and gravity fields.

While Dawn surpassed Deep Space 1's record for velocity change, Deep Space 1 will continue to reign as holder for the longest duration of powered spaceflight for another few months. Dawn is expected to take over that record on about August 10 of this year.

The Dawn mission to Vesta and Ceres is managed by JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The University of California, Los Angeles, is responsible for overall Dawn mission science. Other scientific partners include Planetary Science Institute, Tucson, Ariz.; Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany; DLR Institute for Planetary Research, Berlin, Germany; Italian National Institute for Astrophysics, Rome; and the Italian Space Agency, Rome. Orbital Sciences Corporation of Dulles, Va., designed and built the Dawn spacecraft.

To learn more about Dawn and its mission to the asteroid belt, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/dawn



DC Agle
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-393-9011
david.c.agle@nasa.gov

2010-192
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2010 - 02:51am PT
Apparently Lunar ETs are into trundling! They obviuosly have taken it to a higher level. You got to roll Moon rocks/boulders down the sides of a massive impact crater, and then make it into the bowl of a younger smaller crater. You have to call it before you roll it though. Big points are possible if you do so. Man they are brilliant! (Lol)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trundling



http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/M122597190LE


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/24/lunar-boulder-hits-a-hole-in-one/

Lunar boulder hits a hole in one!










Calling Rokjox,


http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/images/

"LROC (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera), which is aboard the lunar satellite LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter), is currently collecting data and returning an immense wealth of information in the form of images of the Moon. Below you will find our major resources of released images and data from LROC:"

We need to find a massive ship on the backside of the Moon!
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2010 - 09:58am PT
We have a way out of our environmental degradation. There is a better way. We do not need to destroy our Earth with the use of non-renewable finite resources that pollute our planet.

The Gulf of Mexico disaster does not have to keep re-occuring. We can end it. There is a better way to go and the technology is known.

Some hold the purse and the power, and they do not want to let go of it, but if we are to continue and to do better and if Earth is to survive our brutal treatment of her, we have to do it a better, cleaner, renewable, and infinite energy way.

We need the technology, we do not need the secrecy, the lies, and the hiding.



Fastwalkers, the complete DVD (1hr.38min.):
http://www.guba.com/watch/3000029475/UFO-Smoking-GUN

Jim Marrs Preview for Fastwalkers and Open Files DVDs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FjKZbCwqc&feature=player_embedded#!
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jun 10, 2010 - 10:52am PT
I know what created those craters.
























Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
Very good video by the History Channel. It was on last night 6-17-10:

UFO Files: UFOs and the White House Part I
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2409768

UFO Files: UFOs and the White House Part II
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1118466081





Edit:

The woman above is the official Cheerleader for the program I think.

(lol)
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Jun 19, 2010 - 12:43am PT
Verrrry nice goatboy! Is she a friend of yours?
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2010 - 01:01am PT
Another very good one . . .

Many Professional Pilots both commercial and private, and many NASA Astronauts and their enourmous amount of witnessed sightings: We have audio recordings, images and footage, RADAR tracks, and official reports written, turned-in, and filed. Some reports are hidden, and some have come out now due to FOIA requests.

History Channel
UFO Files: Black Box UFO Secrets
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8614351526846808167#
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jun 19, 2010 - 01:29am PT
The SuperTopo Pedants’ Agains’t Apos’trophe, Adjective and Alliteration Abus’e and As’s’orted Grammatical Atros’ities’ will soon add its remarks.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
Wow! I have never seen this film before. It is really, really good.

Dan Aykroyd, the full Professor of UFOs.

This film covers all the bases and in very good detail. I'm blown away. Dan has been interested in UFOs since a little boy in the 1950s. He is incredibly knowledgeable about all the related phenomenon. Very well spoken. Very well read. And he knows all the stats and the topics and knows all the people to talk to, and all the best incidents of UFOs/Alien contact and abductions.

He also has some very interesting personal experiences.

I highly recommend this film.


Dan Aykroyd - Unplugged on Ufo's
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8614351526846808167#docid=-8993422112864357113


st_mini_me

Social climber
Olamola,NM
Jun 24, 2010 - 11:48am PT
Mars cave opening found by 7th graders

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20008507-1.html
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Jul 15, 2010 - 06:40pm PT
Those pesky Aliens are at it again.

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93848?fp=1
dirtbag

climber
Jul 15, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
You know, I am damn proud to say that we have among the finest collection of kooks to be found anywhere on the interweb.
rrrADAM

Trad climber
LBMF
Jul 15, 2010 - 06:53pm PT
Newsflash!!!!!


UFOs <> Aliens
rrrADAM

Trad climber
LBMF
Jul 15, 2010 - 07:27pm PT
You know, I am damn proud to say that we have among the finest collection of kooks to be found anywhere on the interweb.
We have a pretty motley crue over at rc.n00b too, ya know.

Just take a stroll through the Soap Box... There's even a little crossover.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
Just finishing reading Luca Scantamburlo's new book:

Apollo 20 The Disclosure
Moon: A Joint US and Soviet Space Mission on the Dark Side of the Moon

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-20-Disclosure-Luca-Scantamburlo/dp/1445273977/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281891917&sr=8-1


Several things mentioned in the book I didn't know before, and I've followed the story of Apollo 20 since the beginning in April of 2007. Very good read. Detailed. A little hard to read at times because Lucas's native language is Italian first.

I'm even more convinced that Vandenburg AFB could have easily sent off Saturn V rockets from that remote base. Even today, Vandenburg is pretty remote. Plenty of cover. Rocket complex SCL 6 is tucked behind Tranquility Peak and hills of cover and near the coast.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/images/vafb-map1.gif


It seems as though the summer of 2010 is a summer of more disclosure. A new book is out and the UK government has just done another big dump of official UFO records this month - August.

UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record [Hardcover] Leslie Kean (Author)
With a Foreword by John Podesta
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Officials/dp/0307716848/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1281892595&sr=1-3

I highly suggest that everyone read the Foreword by John Podesta for free on-line at Amazon.com. Good stuff.





Newly released UFO files from the UK government:
http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Files released in August 2010
The files contain a wide range of UFO-related documents, drawings, letters and parliamentary questions covering the years 1995-2003.

Discover which part of the country had the most reported UFO sightings and find out more about the terror attack foretold in a dream, mysterious objects tracked by radar and the 100-1 bet on alien life.

Start by reading our highlights guide (PDF, 332kb) to help you navigate your way through the files.

Due to the large size of some of these files, we recommend you save them to your PC before opening them. Please right click on the links and select the ‘save’ option.



Drip . . . Drip . . . Drip

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2010 - 02:40am PT
Let it go Klimmer. School is starting for you, maybe you better concentrate on surviving the cutbacks, because if I was an admin at your school, and I knew what you posted and when you did it, I'd can you so fast.




Pate,

Do us all a favor and can yourself from ST. Edit yourself out of existance. An end of your abusses would help everyone tremendously.

Some people shouldn't be allowed on any forum, and you'd be canidate number one. Take a few others with you while you are at it.

One thing can be said for sure, you are the perfect example for anyone to point to and demonstrate to others how someone should never behave in public, and how to never behave on a forum, no matter if it is private or public.

I'm thinking your marriages failed primarily because you are you. You are abussive and way over the top.

And you are wrong on just about everything.

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