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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 24, 2016 - 09:37am PT
Trending just as predicted... five years ago, two years ago...

People of no religion outnumber Christians in England and Wales...


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/23/no-religion-outnumber-christians-england-wales-study

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2016/05/24/england-and-wales-are-now-predominantly-nonreligious/

Huge gains.

And there remains 80 plus years - three generations still - left to the century.

It's ovah for jehovah.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 24, 2016 - 09:56am PT
What?!

Jihadis in paradise expecting 72 virgins surprised to learn that they'll be getting 72 raisons instead...

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/04/07/whytheyhateus-fareed-zakaria-explores-what-drives-the-rage/

.....

Comet 67P, from Rosetta 21may16, just 5 miles away...

jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 24, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
Outstanding image!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 26, 2016 - 07:28am PT
Shame on those "new atheists"... arrogant sonsabitches!

http://meaningoflife.tv/videos/34926?in=19:12&out=29:31
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
May 26, 2016 - 09:14am PT
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 27, 2016 - 08:41am PT
“How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, “This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant?” Instead they say, “No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.” A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.” -Carl Sagan
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 27, 2016 - 09:21am PT
I've got just the book for you...

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, 2015
Yuval Noah Harari

Awe. Reverence.

Good stuff.

.....

Poor Saudi Arabia, under the pressure of youtube...

[Click to View YouTube Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bRjK464Uw

"The only wife beating I'm doing is with a meaty stick, some light hair pulling and if they ask nicely, a little asphyxiation." -Justin
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 28, 2016 - 11:41am PT
Saw a bumper sticker:
Pray
Listen
Then obey

For me it's more like:
Observe
Reason
Then decide
WBraun

climber
May 28, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
No ... atheist or theist all have to obey.

There's no escape.

If you don't obey they will capture you and punishment.

Stop sign, stop light, all the laws of society have to be obeyed.

There's no escape .....
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 28, 2016 - 12:38pm PT

Observe
Reason
Decide ... it is ...

... and of course it's different for ducks...
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
May 28, 2016 - 03:41pm PT
Observe
Reason
Then decide

Inspecto, ratiocinor, constituo.

That Latin sh#t is so classy.....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 31, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
ho yeah!

Thinking in Public: A Conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson

http://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/harris-tyson
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 31, 2016 - 06:51pm PT
Wanna take a ride?

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPpdHYD8jo
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 31, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
my favorite bumper sticker:

"Don't believe everything you think"
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
May 31, 2016 - 07:32pm PT
^^^^Always loved that! A good standard to keep in mind for sure!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jun 2, 2016 - 05:56pm PT
Observe
Reason
Then decid

Stop
Look Both Ways
Then cross
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 8, 2016 - 09:50am PT
If you're interested in all this DNA goings-on... like this...

the start of the HGP-Write project...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/03/science/human-genome-project-write-synthetic-dna.html

then I'd say to you you should take a molecular biology course. Imo, it's well worth the investment. But even if you're 70-plus? Yes, even then, because education can be a lifelong pursuit. The world will be hearing a lot more of bioengineering in the coming decades. Truly exciting times ahead.

AGCCACTT

ATCCACTT (Corrected that for you.)

:)
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 8, 2016 - 09:56am PT
the ability to chemically fabricate the complete set of human chromosomes could theoretically allow the creation of babies without biological parents.

The implications being what? Sheesh.

Silly (iron-age thinking) people.

"theological implications"
lol

Yes, we've got to get Christio-islamic ethics out of it.
Out of 21st century problem solving. Out of 21st century bio-
ethics committees. Out of 21st century bon vivance. (Others may disagree.)

.....

Who doesn't think "supercloning" is in our future?

"Fasten your seatbelt, old man"
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 8, 2016 - 11:14am PT
re: TATA box

:)

(1) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tata%20box
(2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TATA_box

Jeremy, some of your terms just didn't exist 25 years ago. lol



You know I'm thinking this might be a good time to catch...
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Jun 8, 2016 - 11:36am PT
My father was elder in a Congregationalist church in Bridgeton: a poor place now but a worse one then. One time the well-off members subscribed to give the building a new communion table, an organ, and coloured windows. But he was an industrial blacksmith with a big family. He couldnae afford to give money, so he gave ten years of unpaid work as church officer, sweeping and dusting, polishing the brasses, and ringing the bell for services.

At the foundry he was paid less the more he aged, but my mother helped the family by embroidering tablecloths and napkins. Her ambition was to save a hundred pounds. She was a good needlewoman, but she never saved her hundred pounds. A neighbour would fall sick and need a holiday or a friend’s son would need a new suit to apply for a job, and she handed the money over with no fuss or remark, as if it were an ordinary thing to do.

She got a lot of comfort from praying. Every night we all kneeled to pray in the living room before going to bed. There was nothing dramatic in these prayers. My father and mother clearly thought they were talking to a friend in the room with them.

I never felt that, so I believed there was something wrong with me.

Then the 1914 war started and I joined the army and heard a different kind of prayer. The clergy on all sides were praying for victory. They told us God wanted our government to win and was right there behind us, with the generals, shoving us forward.

A lot of us in the trenches let God go at that time.

But Duncan, all these airy-fairy pie-in-the-sky notions are nothing but aids to doing what we want anyway. My parents used Christianity to help them behave decently in a difficult life. Other folk used it to justify war and property.

But Duncan, what men believe isn’t important - it’s our actions which make us right or wrong.




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