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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Before I go,
The Chief called me a Marxist, and I discussed all of the people I put to work, and the wealth that I create. He didn't realize what I did for a living, but it is common knowledge among most people around here.
I asked him flat out if he had created a dime of wealth or if he gets his paychecks from the U.S. Treasury.
He didn't answer that one. I wish he would.
Also, Doug was instrumental in stopping the use of pitons. He never said a peep about bolts. I clipped bolts with him when I was about 18. They were on trad climbs, but there were bolts.
You will never meet a nicer person.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I am waiting to see if TC has ever created a dime of wealth in his life.
I'll tell you a funny story.
I found a big gas field back in the late nineties. It was very shallow, and they could be drilled very cheaply with air rigs. I sent the maps to one of my best friends, also a geologist, and he got bonded with the state to be the operator of the wells. I have no head for accounting, so I handled most of the geology.
One time I was driving through the area with a meteorologist buddy of mine, and I had him pull off and drive to a new well that we had just drilled. It wasn't hooked up to the sales line yet, and was hooked up to a 30 foot steel flowline.
I cracked the choke just a tiny bit and lit the end with a burning piece of paper. This was all over the pit, so no biggie. Then I turned the pipe straight up and opened the valve all of the way. You can't do it too fast, or the flame will blow itself out.
When it is wide open, there is about a 30 foot screaming flame pointing to the sky. It blew my buddy away. Then I turned the valve off. We had done this trick before on occasion.
Anyway, the roar woke up the farmer down the road and he came by to see what the hell we were doing. It was all pretty funny.
You would have to be see that to realize the power in the earth. And yeah, the gas burned might have been worth ten bucks at 3.50/mcf. Gas is cheap. By the time it gets to your burner tip, it about triples in cost.
Our gas had about 3 gallons of propane per mcf. We don't get paid much for that at all. The big pipeline companies strip out the liquids and your burner only sees the pure methane. Ethane, Butane, and Propane all come from natural gas.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Chef,did you know that racing alcohol is ethanol,those motors are temporary because of it.
Ethanol was introduced way back,it helps farmers and burns cleaner,helping our air quality.Side effects include advanced corrosion.
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Mad69Dog
Mountain climber
Superior, CO
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"BTW: Ethanol was Ford's first fuel of choice when this automobile thing first got going."
Hell yea. Gap a spark plug, take snort. Change the oil, take a snort. It's a highly compatible solvent when benzene free. But you will never keep it dry unless you are willing to work hard.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Hey. I'm all for drilling for natural resources Base, and I'm all for protecting the people and our resources with the military Chief because
we know there are some out there that would take it away from us if they could.
Now about this climate change thing. Fine tuning our infrastructure so
it is more efficient and use less energy is great. Costs less. And most of the time just replacing stuff that has worn out with new more efficient machines is the way to do it.
But the heinous idea of fixing stuff that is not broken (like the climate)
needs to be vigorously fought.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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But the heinous idea of fixing stuff that is not broken (like the climate)needs to be vigorously fought.
"Hey Cletus, turn that thar steerin wheel, we's gonna crash into that brick wall!"
"Don't choo worry none, Festus, car ain't broke yet"
"But Cletus, you'll kill me an you both!"
"You itchin fer a fight Festus? Cause I'll give yo..."
BAM!!!!!
F*#king genius, the level intellect among these deniers.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Well Mental Case it's been billions of years not just ten thousand. So what is happening to that continuos heat source from the Earth's interior, could it be a contributing cause to the oceanic oscillations? I'm trying to get you religious sicko's to start thinking. Just maybe, if you guys look to the oceans and sun instead of discounting their effects in favor of the mythical molecule CO2, you could find a path to rationality. Here is a recent science paper for you.
http://www.jpands.org/vol18no3/lindzen.pdf
Base, you likely get depressed by all the waste and environmental abuses you see around you. But don't you think we'll invent and innovate are way out of these destructive ways before we actually have the abilitie's to destroy ourselves?The biggest danger i see is from the irrational economic's we've been practicing for the last twenty years or so.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Whats wrong with Elcapinyoazz?
Why so serious?
Please don't tell us you're still pissed that the (un)settled science of anthropogenic global warming" never previously 'assured you' that pollution in China could counteract the effects of increased atmospheric CO2!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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BASE,That AAPG Explorer is a good read ,thanks.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Ron, that post is an excellent illustration of your ignorance.
Most US workers have a commute of nearly 1 hour each day. Based on my driving in cities, I assume that is about 30 miles a day. Assuming a 250 day work year, that is 7500 miles. Assuming 30 mpg (likely higher than average), that is at least 250 gallons of gas a year per person. There are plenty of alternatives: biking, mass transit, car pooling, etc. Add to that the fact that most people drive a couple miles to the store and just about every other place imaginable (rather than walking or biking or taking public transportation).
Compare that to a road trip to a killer destination (not Dinosaur Rock) 10 hours away (20 hours total travel time), traveling at an average speed of 70 mph, in a "gas guzzler" worthy of living in that gets 20 mpg. The total fuel consumption is 70 gallons of gas. Or a trip to the "local" crag 30 miles each way, once a week, which would use 100 gallons of gas a year (assuming 30 mpg). Note: there ain't many public transportation options that service climbing areas.
The major problem is not weekly or yearly recreational trips. The problem is the basic infrastructure (personal vehicles, usually with 1 occupant) that our society relies on to get sheeple from one box where they sleep to another box where they earn a living.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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The Chief...I read that Interwest wants to buy white mt. estates for mammoth mt. employee housing...Looks like Rusty is going to be your new land lord...? Welcome to the burbs...Ha , ha...RJ
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Buhda of stupid...I need a Chief to English dictionary to keep up with your slang...Noron...? Is that a 3-pin moron...? RJ
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Problem is chuff asslicker, I don't commute to work in a personal vehicle that burns fossil fuel.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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"Problem is chuff asslicker, I don't commute to work in a personal vehicle that burns fossil fuel."
You don't produce anything anyone wants to buy, either. You could just not work, and nobody but you would even know the difference.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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You don't produce anything anyone wants to buy, either. You could just not work, and nobody but you would even know the difference.
Uh, yeah, I guess you are correct... nobody really "buys" well educated kids these days. But idiots like you and chuffnuts make it pretty clear what would happen if I didn't do my job.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I wouldn't pay him to pick my avocados.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Yes, Chief, tell us all about the stuff that is naturally found in the desert.
How about starting with your lawn?
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dirtbag
climber
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Chief Holier than Thou.
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