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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 30, 2011 - 02:56am PT
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Let's talk about entitlement programs like social security and medicare...Fattrad , donald Thompson, skipt and TGT are against these so called entitilement programs inspite of the fact that the benefactors have contributed to these programs thru-out their lives with the goal of drawing upon their contributions when they retire.....the hypocrisy that fattrad and his gang of neo-conservatives conveniently forget to mention is that they continue making a profit , while they sleep , off of other peoples investments in the almighty stock market...care to explain how the stock market is not an entitlement or pyramid scheme.....? .is this stock market just another nanny state for the privaledged..?
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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Jul 30, 2011 - 08:43am PT
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Goddamnit I agree with Rokjox - I hate it when that happens:
When you let the opposition frame the debate and define its terms, you will lose immediately, and you will never understand what happened.
The Repubs are MUCH better at this particular game than the Dems. I think it has to do with their shameless ability to stand in front of a camera and lie through their teeth with a smile.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 30, 2011 - 12:22pm PT
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Fat wrote: Ricky,
Just like with Norton, I will not be able to accept your wager. I've seen too many people posting with too many financial issues to even take a chance that I might put someone in distress. Maybe I would consider it if we could go two years without a "FEST".
It other words...I'm a chickenshit with little to no balls who has been wrong on every major candidate I have endorsed in the last four years.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jul 30, 2011 - 02:01pm PT
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the inevitable results of a nationalized health care system:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8668906/NHS-delays-operations-as-it-waits-for-patients-to-die-or-go-private.html
that's right, the system much beloved and touted by libs is trying to force people to pay for PRIVATE HEALTH CARE in order to save money...the patient's alternative? DIE
so alan grayson was half right about politicians wanting americans to diel he was simply wrong about their political affiliation
let's see, how will libs respond to this PROOF that the government is incapable of providing safe, fast, and efficient health care? of course, call for more government oversight to oversee the government oversight that's meant to oversee the government's health care system
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 31, 2011 - 12:11am PT
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Fatty said That idiot Obama should have made sure Mubarek stayed in power:
Quoted for posterity.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jul 31, 2011 - 02:06am PT
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Since 2000 we have lived in a country that had relatively high profits all around (record high profits if anyone remembers), lower wages, and few taxes.
All of these things, the economists and right wing pundits tell us, leads to greater times for everybody.
Yet here we are deep in the middle of an economic caldron of sh#t and the right wing seems to be hell bent on making things worse.
What do people do when they need money. Many things, I know. But one of those things would be get a job.
Now, if it were the case that there were such things as "job creators" then there would always be adequate enough jobs for most everyone, seeing how for the last 30 years the number of millionaires has grown to how many? How many billionaires are there now? And still the highest unemployment since the last great depression.
The right is a crock.
The right wing punditry is a total crock.
The longer you listen, the more dumb you become.
The right seems to have a very dangerous mental disorder. I know this was used by the right to describe the left in the past, but if the shoe fits, no what I'm sayin?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 31, 2011 - 06:22pm PT
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An example from the top for all self serving politicians!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/31/biden-charging-secret-service-cottage-rental/
“The cottage was an existing rental property at the time the Secret Service signed its lease,” said Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Mr. Biden.
Last year, Mr. Biden and his wife, Jill, reported earning $379,178, including $11,000 in income from the cottage, according to the Bidens’ tax return. The Bidens did not list any rental income for 2009.
The Secret Service was the contracting agency on the two purchase orders so far that have paid Mr. Biden $13,200 combined for use of his cottage.
The first purchase order to Mr. Biden for $2,200 was signed April 1, 2011, and the second for $11,000 was signed June 2. The records both list Mr. Biden by name as the vendor under a section of the purchase order called “contractor information.” The purchase order describes Mr. Biden as a sole proprietor with no employees and no annual revenue.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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TGT..That's a lot of money Biden is pocketing...jeepers...
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Jorroh
climber
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Fatty you do understand that there is a conservative government in power in the UK, don't you?...They have been trying to get rid of the NHS for years, so yes, they are trying to squeeze the NHS wherever possible. Hence the dishonest article you post above. Unfortunately for the conservatives the NHS operates very efficiently and well (as I can attest thanks to an ugly incident in Pembroke two weeks ago) and is extremely popular with the british people.
Of course according to you, they should probably swap their relatively cheap and efficient system for our very expensive and inefficient system and somehow in Republagumby world at least, that would be better for the UK.
Tell me again about Socialists...a could use a laugh this afternoon.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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TGT, always the cut-n-paste King Clown of IdiotTown.
Try adding a little honesty and context...maybe your 180 IQ son could explain those words to you.
The U.S. Secret Service does more than protect Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. — the agency also pays him rent...
Officials say the arrangement came about when a previous tenant moved out of the cottage and the Secret Service moved in.
Edwin M. Donovan, special agent in charge at the Secret Service’s Office of Government and Public Affairs in Washington, said the agency pays $2,200 in rent per-month, the same amount a previous tenant had paid before moving out.
The dumbass wingers can't even be original, they tried this line of bullshit on Clinton too:
After angry callers kept insisting that the Secret Service is paying enough rent to Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton (for space on their property in Chappaqua, N.Y.) to underwrite the Clintons’ mortgage, we checked with the agency that protects presidents, former presidents and their families. Secret Service spokesman Jim Mackin told us that the agency is paying the Clintons only around $1,100 a month — a figure based on a government formula and the standard arrangement in such situations.
How does if feel to be Sofa King Stupid?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Unfortunately for the conservatives the NHS operates very efficiently and well (as I can attest thanks to an ugly incident in Pembroke two weeks ago) and is extremely popular with the british people.
Of course according to you, they should probably swap their relatively cheap and efficient system for our very expensive and inefficient system and somehow in Republagumby world at least, that would be better for the UK.
What? Like the Canadians? When all there most affluent come here for healthcare?
I hear the Brit system sucks.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Blue...I have an irish friend that needed medical care when they were in Britain...She said the system took care of the medical issue no problem ,no charge...? We have conflicting info here..?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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H'm!
get a big fat pension govt pension, check,
your wife's big fat Govt pay check,
and make your govt employee, paid for, bodyguards pay rent to boot!
Good work if you can get it.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Blue...I have an irish friend that needed medical care when they were in Britain...She said the system took care of the medical issue no problem ,no charge...? We have conflicting info here..?
2ND-hand account from a 3rd party? What was is it, a cut and a visit to emergency?
I'm talking serious healthcare and science behind the care. Sustained healthcare technology. Ya know?
You don't go to Cuba or Canada for cancer treatment, or heart surgery. You come here. Ya know why?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Blue...you assume too much...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Blue...You come here , the states , for medical care because why...? Maybe we do have better care here but the catch is only if you can afford and how many people can afford our health care..? Not a very big percentage of the earth's population...so what good is it if you can't afford IT?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Blue...You come here , the states , for medical care because why...? Maybe we do have better care here but the catch is only if you can afford and how many people can afford our health care..? Not a very big percentage of the earth's population...so what good is it if you can't afford IT?
Talk to an illegal alien after a car accident with life-threatening injuries.
You think they get turned away? Even if the driver was drunk? They get treated at our expense through hospitals that are going bankrupt.
It doesn't work. There needs to be people paying into the system through insurance, kinda like taxes supporting our government.
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