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Caz
Big Wall climber
Long Beach, CA.
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Jul 11, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
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More drama please. I'm not done with work yet...
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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Jul 11, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
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Way better than Erica Cain, anyway.
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Hummerchine
Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
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Jul 11, 2011 - 09:39pm PT
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Anyone who has desecrated the Big Stone with any sort of hammered placement should be shot and killed immediately
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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Jul 11, 2011 - 09:40pm PT
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Uh oh.
Now we're ALL gonna Die!!!6!!
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fosburg
climber
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Jul 11, 2011 - 10:08pm PT
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I think you are absolutely right and to the point Perry, there is no pure aid climbing standard and that fact is at the basis of all this "disagreement". The detractors of WOS are mostly nailers themselves and thus guilty of rock alteration. Who makes the rules?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Jul 11, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
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"The name of big-walling--invent your own rules/ethics and legends and see how many of the m-asses will kiss your azz and follow them."--mojede
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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Jul 11, 2011 - 10:34pm PT
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fet wrote:
"Pretty much nobody is "pure". Did Grossman back off his climbs if they required a bolt or a pin?"
you are unfamiliar with steve's efforts.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 11, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
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I believe what Steve and Mimi's arguments are really based on is if most of the hook moves were "doctored" with a drill bit or scraped then the so called line was "forced" since there are also a high number of aid holes (bolts & rivets) for the amount of pitches.
This would be the "root" of their argument, (The line was "Forced").
They also most likely believe that the FA party was not truthful in revealing how much was doctored.
Just my wild guess so don't be going ape sh'it on me ......
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 11, 2011 - 11:38pm PT
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"Pretty much nobody is "pure". Did Grossman back off his climbs if they required a bolt or a pin?"
you are unfamiliar with steve's efforts.
great for Steve but I see no reason for everyone to climb like Steve nor should first ascents be limited to the fewest elite who can do the route in the very highest style.
In that case, almost all El cap routes would have run-out 5.13 before you even got to the aid
Peace
Karl
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 11, 2011 - 11:53pm PT
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Hey all!
Ammon and Kait are 30 feet shy of being done with pitch 8.
That's the scoop for tonight!
I think??? they said Pitch 9 looks okay.
Mama Annie
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 11, 2011 - 11:56pm PT
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Man, I wish you were my mom! The first my mom knew about my climbing was
the bill she got for the chopper rescue.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:17am PT
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Just my wild guess so don't be going ape sh'it on me ......
Hey Werner!
Peace
Edit: Thanks "Mamma" fer the reports! Hope you get thru this without too much stress! Enjoy the ascent.
Peace
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:19am PT
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This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:22am PT
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And the Murphy-nator is not enhanced!!!
All Barber doggies look like this - they smile! Kinda' weird but not.
Everyone wants to come back as a Barber pup. It's a great life!
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:42am PT
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You're welcome!
Keeps me closer to my two knuckleheads!
And I love watching my kids climb - always have!
It's quite fun!
Plus, you al make me LOL with your rants and raves.
Keep up the good work!
P.S. Pete - where'd you go to? This thread is missing your expertise!
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:44am PT
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And Reilly, I'm safe on the heli bill - Kait's over 21. Woot Woot!
Oh, no! She is on my insurance!!!!!
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Captain...or Skully
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or some such
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Jul 12, 2011 - 12:56am PT
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So we're NOT gonna die? Well, good.
Seemed touch & go there for a bit.
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 01:00am PT
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Thank you, Jesus! I was getting worried too!
Night!
P.S. Keep on threading!
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#1SuperMama
Social climber
Oakdale, Ca
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Jul 12, 2011 - 01:02am PT
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Sorry to say, Jim - no blue silk pumps for me!
Maybe Fiveten will customize a pair for me?!?
Keep it up!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 12, 2011 - 01:08am PT
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If you don't mind us asking, does Ammon take a teddy on the wall with him? Or maybe Kait? It seems to be common amongst the hardmen - two here recently soloed (respectively) Zenyatta Mondatta and Shortest Straw, both very hard routes on El Capitan. Both accompanied by teddies. Plus PTPP has a 'crab' teddy.
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