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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:17pm PT
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Here, let me be equally open.
You're a freshman (idiot) on these subjects. Minor league all the way.
Including your biochemistry understanding of a few weeks back - which I let slide because at the time I was in pursuit of a larger goal.
(You must have learned it in, what? chiropractic school?)
So there.
Hey, have a good one!
he's solid and I like him. Stop picking on him.
lol
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WBraun
climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:20pm PT
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Meltdown and sounding more and more like a Donald Trump now including back edits to his meltdown posts ....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:21pm PT
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Oh the crime. To back edit! How what, cowardly? lol
So sue me, dipsh#t.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 17, 2016 - 05:23pm PT
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HFCS, apparently you weren't able to understand the PubMed citations I posted?
Is your arguement that PubMed citations or the physiology as presented in Guyton's Medical Physiology is null when it is being presented by a chiropractor?
That's just sad.
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WBraun
climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:25pm PT
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No ... it's not a crime at all
It's what Donald does too when loses it too much.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:25pm PT
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Youre showing a "disrespectful demeanor" now, Mark Force.
(Funny how that happens, eh?)
Hey do you mind if I go back and back-edit for that apostrophe?
Oh forget it.
Is your arguement that PubMed citations or the physiology as presented in Guyton's Medical Physiology is null when it is being presented by a chiropractor?
I don't know about all that. But when it's posted like you posted it... it IS probably the chiropractor.
Probably right up there with (1) 12V car batteries that can electrocute you (Brawn) and (2) majority of stars in the night sky long dead (PaulR). And I could go on.
Hey don't you have some sheet rock to hang?
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 17, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
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Lawrence Krauss is undoubtedly a smart guy. He does get all muddled at the edges of his science and gets all twisted up into a mangled up science-religion-philosophy soup and gets to where he loses the distinctions. It's better to leave to science what belongs to science, unless we are having fun musing and sharing the fun and not making proclamations about it.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 17, 2016 - 05:31pm PT
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So, you are claiming the peer-reviewed science is no good because I, a chiropractor, posted it? Be clear. Yes or no. Don't be vague - stand on it - or in it - as the case may be.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:31pm PT
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You really think YOU are in a position to talk about Krauss getting "muddled" (mf) and "twisted" (mf).
It's been fun.....
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Hey, you can post what you posted those couple months ago (or close, maybe it was several) and I'll take my line-item veto to it where applicable. I'm game.
Yes, I got A's in biochem, mol bio and pharm bitd. I think I'm up to it.
The simple fact is... Science is not my religion but Science is my passion. And what I do not like are people - even climbers - who pretend to knowledge they do not have.
You are a rank amateur in these subjects.
Insofar as you or anyone else post unhelpful inaccuracies and I catch them and I am able (time-wise whatever) I'll say so. You might say the interest to call it out is in my dna - I'm all right with that.
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EDIT 2016 05 19 to add...
Correction.
Back on May 17 I (hastily) wrote...
1. The simple fact is... Science is not my religion but Science is my passion. And what I do not like are people - even climbers - who pretend to knowledge they do not have.
when I should've wrote...
2 The simple fact is... Science is not my religion but Science is my passion. And what I do not like are people - even climbers - pretending to knowledge they do not have.
probably even better...
3 The simple fact is... Science is not my religion but Science is my passion. And what I do not like is the act of people - even climbers - pretending to knowledge they do not have.
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WBraun
climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:40pm PT
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Yep ^^^ a clueless Donald Trump clone .....
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 17, 2016 - 05:43pm PT
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I do find myself aligned with Neil deGrasse Tysons' agnosticism. As I've argued before this position is more true to a scientific mindset.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence"
~ David Hume
"So what people are really after is what is my stance on religion or spirituality or God, and I would say if I find a word that came closest, it would be agnostic ... at the end of the day I'd rather not be any category at all."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
"I'm constantly claimed by atheists. I find this intriguing. In fact, on my Wiki page – I didn't create the Wiki page, others did, and I'm flattered that people cared enough about my life to assemble it – and it said "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an atheist." I said, "Well that's not really true." I said, "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an agnostic." I went back a week later it had been rewritten and it said "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an atheist." – again within a week – and I said, "What's up with that?" so I said "Alright, I have to word it a little differently." So I said, okay "Neil deGrasse Tyson, widely claimed by atheists, is actually an agnostic."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
"I can't agree to the claims by atheists that I'm one of that community. I don't have the time, energy, interest of conducting myself that way... I'm not trying to convert people. I don't care."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
He does, IMHO, have some goofy ideas about space travel and planetary exploration.
Let's be rational about that and make long term sustainability our next "man on the moon."
You really think YOU are in a position to talk about Krauss getting "muddled" (mf) and "twisted" (mf).
Is Lawrence Krauss a Physicist, or Just a Bad Philosopher?
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/is-lawrence-krauss-a-physicist-or-just-a-bad-philosopher/
But when it's posted like you posted it... it IS probably the chiropractor.
What is that supposed to mean? That I hacked into PubMed and changed the abstracts to meet my bias before posting the links for them?
You are welcome to pull through what I posted and critique it. Knock yourself out. Otherwise, stop whining.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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May 17, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
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I aspired to enlightenment but this is what I found. Alrighty then.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
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Hey, WB, go test your 12V car battery now. Use salt water at the terminals, too. (EDIT: I'll give you that if it helps.) Pretender.
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Crankster, this kind of dialog is not my choice. It truly sucks. But there is this anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-accuracy, last but not least, loosey-goosey group-think here - inspired it seems by this immeasurable arrogance - that is just surreal. I wouldn't believe it if I wasn't experiencing it first-hand. And it's climbers, too. Kind of depressing, actually.
I am for science.
I am for accuracy and higher understanding.
I am for innovation.
I am for overhauling outdated structures in belief systems.
I am for free speech.
I am for criticism of stagnant or retrograde systems (rel or not)
And I get hell for it from multiple sides.
You'd think I was in Tehran or Islamabad.
But it is America, and I am called a "bigot."
(and I am not even religious.)
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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May 17, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
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You're winning, HFCS. The bullies are blowing their tops!
Interesting. Which thread are you reading?
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WBraun
climber
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May 17, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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Fruitcake -- "I am for overhauling outdated structures in belief systems."
Better start getting busy on yourself,
Because you surly are outdated .......
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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"Interesting. Which thread are you reading?" -Paul
So am I losing, Paul?
Point to my lies or inaccuracies, please.
Point to my inaugural name-calling where I've started any of it, please.
So PaulR, tell me Sir, did you show any humility WHATSOEVER when you were corrected on your stars dead post? Or any gratitude WHATSOEVER for the update/correct? Would this not speak to a man's character? Instead, what did you do? We could go back and look. You tried to shuck and jive your way out of it per usual using your rhetorical devices. To my lights at the time, Grade D. And while we're on it, I think this sort of conduct speaks to a man's character.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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May 17, 2016 - 06:08pm PT
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"the universe is governed by the laws of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not intervene to break the laws" ~ Stephen Hawking
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 06:09pm PT
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It is metaphor, amateur.
Read his latest newsworthy book where he point blank says he is an atheist. You're outdated. You're an amateur. Take your pick.
Boy, you sure did... "lay it down straight up"!
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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May 17, 2016 - 06:13pm PT
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It is metaphor
Read his latest newsworthy book where he point blank says he is an atheist.
I fixed your last post HFCS.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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May 17, 2016 - 06:15pm PT
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Now we got the woo train rolling in. Woot!
How's that tickle under your belly chakra today, you
got anything?
I want to hear more about this "energy garden".
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