1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Aug 10, 2010 - 01:04pm PT

Licky,

I just found that photo of Jack that I promised you years ago. I'm having it scanned and I'll post it here and send it to you shortly. It's a classic Dorn shot.

tonesfrommars

Trad climber

California

Aug 10, 2010 - 01:05pm PT

Way to go 777:

Now we can add another year to the wait ! ;-D
Great stories.

Licky

Mountain climber

California

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2010 - 12:26am PT

Thanks Mark..I look forward to see what you have

Licky

Mountain climber

California

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2010 - 03:09am PT

Alright Sidmo....here is the "stuff". You've not offered up a single interesting tidbit of information. Not a single unique story. So far all you've posted is to rag as if this story is about you. So, if you don't mind, find another ear...you've lost mine.

Wonder

climber

Aug 15, 2010 - 03:42am PT

OMG Licky Licky, You aint gonna put out a book!
Prove me wrong bitch.
Five uking years bitch.
Mission accomplish.

sidmo

Sport climber

general delivery

Aug 17, 2010 - 02:47am PT

good - you'll never get it anyway - kind of pathetic to see someone obsess over O.P. (other people's) dope anyway - find your own stash and write about it, loser - so, what spark plugs were thay running in that bird again? fascinating!

Hawkeye

climber

State of Mine

Aug 17, 2010 - 12:06pm PT

Drug lords will likely be interested in the book, for example, but they will not be the largest audience, or even an important one.

you have got to be the most clueless motherf*#ker on this site....

my name for you is captain obvious....

Mark Hudon

Trad climber

Hood River, OR

Aug 22, 2010 - 11:38pm PT

Jack Dorn, Winter 1975-76, on Serenity Crack.

Chicken Skinner

Trad climber

Yosemite

Aug 23, 2010 - 12:41am PT

Nice photo Mark. That is how I remember him.

Ken

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Aug 23, 2010 - 01:06am PT

And five years is not especially a long time to write a factual history of ANYTHING

Perhaps not too long for some things, perhaps far too long for some other things. But be that as it may, this particular enterprise has gone on much longer than five years. Unless "Licky" is one of two people writing a similar book, it's been more than ten. Don't know how much more, but I think it was about ten years ago that he first called me. (A wasted call, because I didn't really know anything beyond second-hand information.)

TripL7

Trad climber

san diego

Aug 23, 2010 - 01:12am PT

"That is how I remember him."

Same here.

Looks like the same pair of long underwear that I mentioned in my recollections of him a page back. Same RR's also.

The Dude Abides!

TripL7

Trad climber

san diego

Aug 23, 2010 - 11:40am PT

sidmo- "looking more and more like a fed op..."

Yeah, right, over thirty years later and the feds start a thread about an airplane that crashed in a lake and bunch of lucky sons a bitches made away with a few pounds of wet grass.

Like they don't have more important things to do with all the cartels kidnapping gringo's on the Mex/Amer border towns and burning them in barrels of gasoline and chopping off their heads, etc. Or the Mex police(the crooked one's)stopping and kidnapping American teenage girls crossing the border and offering them to the drug kingpins for their personal sexual gratification.

Sidmo, like somebody said, this ain't about you. I don't know what you or anyone else offered or feel as though you offered as personal accounts with some sort of string attached. It is a discussion of times gone by. Fun to read, share and reminisce about. Should it become a book, perhaps even a best seller, then all the better.

Who are you to come up with such damning accusations? Because it hasn't met your time line? Seems like you, Wonder, and a few others expect something more. Why? Because you shared a few stories?

Enjoy the thread, and appreciate the fact that Licky got it going...ain't that enough?

Licky

Mountain climber

California

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2010 - 05:15pm PT

Thanks for the support TripL7.

Ghost, I've been working on this project since 2005.

Here is a very good reason for me to keep at the research. In a book published this year "It Happened in Yosemite National Park: Remarkable Events That Shaped History" by Ray Jones and Joe Lubow they recall the plane crash and the events that followed. I just ordered the book so I could get the full text, but what I did read on line tells about the bales weighting 140 pounds, they have the plane type incorrect (PV-1 Ventura) and the plane had been refitted with two jet engines that gave it an additional 5,000 hp, federal agents cut through the ice when the location was reported and the divers could not find the pilots, and finally, six armed US Customs agents parachuted into the lake area to drive off all of you bad guys that were stealing the cargo.

I can't wait to get my copy to read the rest of the story. I don't know these authors nor where they get their facts, but if you ask me they either embellished the truth or listened to too many campfire stories. I've been told many of these types of stories, but when I hear them I at least follow up with some research.

I've not posted all of the stories on this thread for many reasons. First off I refuse to perpetuate rumors. Sure they are fun to read and make great novels, but the truth as they say is stranger than fiction. Second, I need time to research the story to make sure it isn't bunk. And of course third, I want to keep some of the stories for the book.

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Aug 23, 2010 - 06:00pm PT

Ghost, I've been working on this project since 2005.

Odd. Somebody phoned me ten or twelve years ago with the exact same idea. Doing a book about the crash, following leads from climbers and also from other sources, heard I might have some stories or interesting facts. (As I said above, I didn't have any inside knowledge and couldn't help.)

So when you showed up here I assumed you were the same person. But apparently not.

Wonder

climber

Aug 23, 2010 - 08:23pm PT

"Seems like you, Wonder, and a few others expect something more. Why? Because you shared a few stories? "

Nope, I'm just tiring to push buttons. I do enjoy this thread That's why I'm still here. I really never shared any stories. I was in Idyllwild. Knew all the players. Dont want to share all. Dont trust this guy "licky".

where do they all come up with these Nicknames ? So glad I was nicknamed roywonder.

Cheers

sidmo

Sport climber

general delivery

Aug 24, 2010 - 02:13am PT

ouch!! i thought this thread was about you, me and everyone posting in a back-and-forth with licky - maybe i did get too negative, sorry for that - not sure what a "hustler" meant in curry village but it's past now - my perspective at that time was through tecoya and ahwahnee dorm, and san francisco - if licky does get this ramble down to an interesting story it will be a feat worthy of respect - if he veers offtopic it won't be the first time a book had chapters to scan and others to study, i apologize for wanting to see something condensed and gripping - encyclopedias are fun to read too

Wonder

climber

Aug 24, 2010 - 02:44am PT

I smoked the good the bad & the ugly
If i remember right the good showed up with the
suicide doors.

Licky

Mountain climber

California

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2010 - 12:24am PT

Just received my copy of "It Happened In Yosemite National Park". You guys ought to order this just for the laughs, especially those that were there at the time. The chapter that talks about this event ends with the author saying, "Not every story told about the crash is true. Nor are all the stories false."

I'm shaking my head. If this book had been written as a novel, I'd have smiled and enjoyed it. Makes me wonder about the validity of the other stories in the book.