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Apr 13, 2018 - 10:24am PT
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Sally Yates says that I’ll lose my moral authority to lead the country if I don’t do an interview with Mueller.
Me? Moral authority? You think I’m up here and you’re down there because of moral authority? Pay attention Sally.
In strikingly similar news, my HHS political appointee is saying that our forefathers would have strung up Obama for treason.
What? My great great fantastic incredible great grandpappy John Alden who came over on the Mayflower and who I’m so proud to be descended from?
Yea, she’s probably right. That’s what moral authority will do for you.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 03:38pm PT
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Traitors are not pardonable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning
"Manning was charged with 22 offenses, including aiding the enemy, which was the most serious charge and could have resulted in a death sentence."
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Apr 13, 2018 - 03:50pm PT
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scooter libby never served a day of jail time (unlike manning 7 years).
The reason trumpy is acting now:
quote from Adam Schiff
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@RepAdamSchiff
On the day the President wrongly attacks Comey for being a “leaker and liar” he considers pardoning a convicted leaker and liar, Scooter Libby. This is the President’s way of sending a message to those implicated in the Russia investigation: You have my back and I‘ll have yours.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 04:03pm PT
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I most certainly do, but the comparison stands.
Tut, not sure why you always go right to the insults.
In any event, there is some real doubt about Mr. Libby's guilt or innocence. Manning, not so much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby
"On August 28, 2006, Christopher Hitchens asserted that Richard Armitage was the primary source of the Valerie Plame leak and that Fitzgerald knew this at the beginning of his investigation.[132] This was supported a month later by Armitage himself, who stated that Fitzgerald had instructed him not to go public with this information.[133] Investor's Business Daily questioned Fitzgerald's truthfulness in an editorial, stating "From top to bottom, this has been one of the most disgraceful abuses of prosecutorial power in this country's history...The Plame case proves [Fitzgerald] can bend the truth with the proficiency of the slickest of pols."[134]
In a September 2008 Wall Street Journal editorial, attorney Alan Dershowitz cited the "questionable investigation[s]" of Scooter Libby as evidence of the problems brought to the criminal justice process by "politically appointed and partisan attorney[s] general".[135] In April 2015, also writing in The Wall Street Journal, Hoover Institution fellow Peter Berkowitz argued that statements by Judith Miller, in her recently published memoir, raised anew contentions that her testimony was inaccurate and that Fitzgerald's conduct as prosecutor was inappropriate."
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 13, 2018 - 04:04pm PT
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Manning was charged with...
If you knew anything about computers, IT infrastructure, and security then you'd realize the folks who should be in jail aren't Snowden and Manning, but the architects and operators of the NSA's and DoD data centers, networks and security. They built out so fast they decided they could simply forego even the most basic security designs and policies within their facilities.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 04:06pm PT
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No doubt about it.
But with regard to Snowden, I believe it is possible to be both a hero and a traitor at the same time. He seemed to hold a sincere desire to warn us. Manning, on the other hand, seemed to hold a particular malice. If you can define the line between order and chaos, well...
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 04:10pm PT
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You are a POS example of a human being
Wow, really?
In another thread you claim to be a doctor. If this is true, I certainly hope your political biases don't affect the decisions you make about caring for other human beings.
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Trump
climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 04:13pm PT
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The more we learn, the higher up we place the blame. In my kid’s school, they use a trauma informed care model.
Still though, seems like we all like to stop and place the blame on some other human, somewhere along the chain of command. I think we’re probably not so different - we just like to blame different other people.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 05:45pm PT
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Posted 5 minutes ago on Twitter:
Kaitlan Collins
Verified account @kaitlancollins
Press pool in Lima with Vice President Pence is rushing back to the hotel unexpectedly. White House is telling the press pool that’s here in Washington to gather.
Something's up.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
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The more we learn, the higher up we place the blame. In my kid’s school, they use a trauma informed care model.
Still though, seems like we all like to stop and place the blame on some other human, somewhere along the chain of command. I think we’re probably not so different - we just like to blame different other people.
Your eloquence and humanism just outed you as NOT being Trump. You're like the doofus in The Great Escape who says, "Thank You" when the Gestapo checking his papers hands them back, and says, "Good Luck".
If you're pretending to be a German, you don't say, "Thank You", or order another round by holding up three fingers; you hold up two fingers and a thumb.
If you're pretending to be Trump, you don't demonstrate a post-fifth grade level of English comprehension, or exhibit empathy for other people, even if they're your wives, mistresses, children or indicted co-conspirators.
The Third Rule of CIA-style is don't get caught doing it CIA-style. A corollary of the Third Law is be competent when doing it CIA-style.
Go back to FSB school, foo'.
I saw that one.
Trump certainly knows how to bring the country together: gets into his Hot Tub Time Machine with a couple of naked floozies, and zooms us all back to 1952.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:14pm PT
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Maybe.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:21pm PT
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Earlier in the day Trump heard the talking heads on FOX discussing how attacking Syria would take the pressure off from Comey's book.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
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You have my back and I‘ll have yours.
Nah, Trump's not the kind of guy to return favors; he's only in it for himself. He'll f*#k you over in a New York minute if it helps him.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:26pm PT
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I'd enjoy the ST political threads more without the name calling.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:29pm PT
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So you geniuses think Macron, May, and Merkel are out to lunch for signing onto this?
Y’all think Billy Clinton was remiss for socking it to the Serbs? Y’all got Neville Chamberlain
posters in yer sh!tters, too? Ya think the Holocaust was faked?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
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Compare the responses from April, 2017 and April, 2018.
Consider the timing.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2018 - 06:38pm PT
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Earlier in the day Trump heard the talking heads on FOX discussing how attacking Syria would take the pressure off from Comey's book.
It's a shame Trump wasn't tuned into his other favorite channel, where he saw "Tinka", an underage Ivanka-clone, speaking in a fake Russian accent on a Disney dancing show.
Caroline "Tinka" Sunshine is now a White House Communications Officer.
White House sci-fi geeks have nicknamed her "A New Hope".
Dora the Explorer only causes him to tweet-rant about sending the "National Army" to stop Dora and her caravan of invaders.
Consider the timing.
Friday the 13th - - - - Trump confuses himself with with Jason Voorhees?
Maybe Trump was watching a Da Vinci Code movie on TV about the Knights Templar hiding all their gold in Syria, and then getting wiped out on Friday the 13th. Maybe Trump wants to be first in line to go get the Templar Gold. It is widely known that Trump is a degenerate auroholic.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Apr 13, 2018 - 06:44pm PT
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Bobby ( the rapist ) Peru gonna make Tinka jump back like a bunny rabbit...Ol Booby gonna rob a bank later and get his face blown clean off....
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