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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:23am PT
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LAhiker-The prescription for Matt's glasses indicates serious nearsightedness -- I don't think it's for a pair of reading glasses. Is there a way to find out or approximate the prescription for the glasses that Alex found? I think someone posted that Mammoth Hospital might have equipment for this. Or an optician in Mammoth might be able to do this.
One way short of that to get a little more info about the glasses would be for someone with a known and similar prescription to look through them. I mean, someone who's seriously nearsighted might be able to tell whether glasses that Alex found are a pair of reading glasses, which might imply that they have a very different prescription from the one Tiffany got from the optician.
(The glasses that Alex found don't look super-thick, but you can't really tell from that, because these days they can make glasses fairly thin even if the prescription is strong.)
As I've already turned the glasses in, I cannot verify 100% that they matched Matt's prescription, however, they were thick. I looked through the lenses and was completely disoriented- I have 20-20 vision and that leads me to believe that the person who lost these could not see very efficiently, if at all, without them. It wouldn't surprise me that the person missing those glasses became very disoriented out at the crater and became lost or worse, injured in a fall, etc. Also, like I mentioned, there are two trails that lead back to the parking lot- it can get confusing if you take the wrong one and try to compensate by bushwhacking in the direction you think may be necessary- I've had to do this before as well, though I have two perfectly good eyes. Other than the two hiking trials to the craters, there are probably several hundreds of miles of ORV trails that lead anywhere from back to the scenic loop, to June Lake or even the San Joaquin drainage behind both Mammoth and June Mountain.
All I'm saying- those glasses seemed integral to the owners ability to see, and that there is a maze of trails out there, that all look alike and curve every which way for miles and miles.
I once found a man out of shady rest (east, past the pay-camp sites) while driving my Jeep around after work, who was completely disoriented with his dog, and could not for the life of him find his camp site. Temperatures were dropping below freezing and night was closing in so I offered to drive him around for about half hour to 45 minutes until we found his site. He was a local camping for the spring/summer to save rent money up and he was not intoxicated. A local, about 3-4 miles north of shady rest park, could not find his camp site and was panicking enough to take me up on the offer to help him find his site.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:28am PT
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Matt's credit card statement.
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Jilli
Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:32am PT
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@SplitPants,
Definitely a fine task for ALexandra since it's a pretty slow place to work at times! She works at the gear exchange in Bishop and I think also at the shop in the village (Mammoth) lately... she merges between the two. Super friendly dreadhead climber, happy disposition, you probably know her if you frequent the place. Also Trevor could be a great source since he is a big part of that shop (Bishop).
Yes, detailed list and pics would be needed... i'll search for it but this could take some time. Let ya know after i get some sleeps (wayyyy late here, good on' Saturday night on the Taco). I will call my contact tomorrow and see about the boots at least. Then like you say, checked off the list, peace of mind. -Jillli
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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$152 from Norco Service Center- I KNOW a blown head gasket is more expensive than that to have a shop fix- did they just not charge the rest?
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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Alex, thanks for the clarification!
Yes, if the glasses were in fact thick, and if you with your 20-20 vision looked through them and went "Whoa!" then that would definitely imply that they are for someone seriously nearsighted such as Matt.
Of course, if Matt had his contacts on he wouldn't have needed his glasses and would not have become disoriented if they were lost. But if, as Adam Faller says, Matt was having problems with his contacts, he could have been wearing the glasses instead, and then losing them would have put him in a bad situation.
I hope the police or someone else can quickly get the Rx on the glasses you found!
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:37am PT
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Alex, the shop first tried changing the thermistat, twice possibly. That would account for the $152.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:38am PT
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+1 Alex, "they were thick" we need the police to get the glasses checked.
For the head gasket, we paid for that. It was 2700$, Matt was gone by the time the car was totally fixed. he had multiple problems with it and was back and forth into the shop for different repairs. -Ron
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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Monolith, Ron, Cragman
Alex, the shop first tried changing the thermistat, twice possibly. That would account for the $152. Thanks for the clarification on that charge.
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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Randisi, Matt also had contacts and apparently that's what he usually wore, especially when hiking/climbing. But people close to him say that he'd been having problems with the contacts and hence might have been wearing his glasses more than usual.
Yes, the glasses that Alex found are different from the ones in the Facebook photo. But apparently Matt had more than one pair of glasses and always got ones in a similar style.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:47am PT
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@rand- Matt had many glasses over the years. They change over the years when looking at his pictures but the basic style remains the same. These may not be the exact glasses in that photo. The was an older photo, could be new glasses, back up pair, lighting, camera angle play a part in photos, age, worn out, who knows....the question is how common is this style? How likely is it a similar style is found that matches Matt style? Are the scripts the same or close? Are the scripts a 100% match to Matt's- if so, it's a no brainier. His script is not common. Won't address the dream, psychic stuff. - Ron
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:54am PT
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Jilli,
My husband just realized his counsins are enroute to Mammoth right now. He has texted them asking if they would be willing to stop at the gear exchange and look through the used items. If they agree is there anyway you or someone can post a list of "missing" items along with pictures? If so I can coordinate passing this along and getting them to stop at the exchange. We are waiting to hear back from them now (they are on the 395 with spotty cell reception in Mojave now).
Would be nice to check this and knock it off our list of things researched!
[EDIT] His counsin(s) have not left yet! They are leaving at 11:30. If anyone can get me a list of missing gear along with pictures they would be willing to stop at the gear exchange in Bishop. It closes at 7PM.
I would need the list and pictures by 11am Pacific Time. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:58am PT
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Tioga, from what I see online it sounds like contact lens prescriptions are different from eyeglass prescriptions:
http://www.aclens.com/prescriptionhelp.asp
Though the prescription that Tiffany got from Matt's optician is organized a bit differently from the examples in the link, which start with a smaller number Power/SPH.
In any event, the big question as far as I can tell is whether the Rx for the glasses Alex found matches Matt's.
Ron, do you know whether the police are checking into that, or whether due to their short-handedness they would want/permit a private citizen to do so. (I noticed that Mammoth Police Chief Watson posted on FB late last night that you guys should call him about the glasses.)
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:59am PT
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Also, Matt was a teacher which means his finger prints need to be on file for background checks. I wonder if the MLPD can pull prints after this long? - Ron
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
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As for thickness of lens, it's hard to tell. My rx is nearly twice as bad as Matt's glasses, but my lenses are thin. I paid extra for 'high index' lenses which means they can be made much thinner and lighter.
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Jilli
Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
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@SplitPants, i will PM
but it would probably be easier to just get an employee friend (aka my friend Alexandra or Trevor) to look through the stock since those are easy items to search for... and more importantly look through records. i am contacting her soon, CHeers.
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
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Tioga, good points, but consider the following:
1. Alex subsequently said the glasses he found were actually thick.
2. Here's Matt's prescription again, as posted by Ron:
Glasses:
OD - 2.75 - 0.75 x 175
OS - 2.75 - 1.00 x 005
Contacts:
OD - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 0.75 x 180
OS - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 1.25 x 180
Acuvue Oasys for Astigmatism
For the contacts, could the 8.6 indicate the base curve and the -2.50 indicate the power, as in the link below? That would fit with the glasses prescription -- the organization of the numbers might be different.
http://www.aclens.com/prescriptionhelp.asp
Even if the glasses prescription correctly represents Matt's vision, that still makes him quite nearsighted.
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
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Tioga, true, unless some of those minus signs are actually hyphens, which admittedly makes things very confusing.
I understand that you mean that using the usual conventions, the prescription for Matt's contacts implies extreme nearsightedness and that the glasses with the -2.75 power would only be for wearing around the house or looking at a computer screen or something. (Um, unless he was using them to read all those pages he took out of the guidebook...)
In any event, it would be great to know whether the prescription for the glasses Alex found matches the one for Matt's glasses...
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Jilli
Trad climber
Livermore, California/ Dunedin NZ
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Aug 24, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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tdg119 or jeg,
What about the rest of the gear which he supposedly had with him on this day mission?
Mountain Hardwear South Col 70liter
La Sportiva Nepal Extreme's - yellow? size?
axes?
crampons?
I will call my friend and have her check it out as soon as I have the specifics (scouring the page as we speak... there are many posts)
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