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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 10, 2009 - 01:21pm PT
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fattrad, why are you so concerned about illegals getting insurance? You know very well that the corporate paymasters of the GOP LOVE illegal immigrants. One more tool they get to use to keep us under their thumbs.
What worries the GOP is that Obama wants to concentrate resources on busting those who hire illegals. And it's about time.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 01:26pm PT
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Point One: Pelosi can say anything she wants but she does not
have final sayso over a bill being passed.
A review of basic civics shows that all three branches of government have to sign off on a bill.
Therefore, no one should care what any single legislator wants.
Second: Federal dollars should pay for abortions.
It's a lot cheaper to prevent a birth than to pay for lifetime
healthcare, social security, unemployment, and medicare.
No self respecting "fiscal" Republican should oppose abortion.
Therefore, Fatty is not a fiscal conservative.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 01:42pm PT
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Jeff, sorry buddy, it is YOU who needs a civics lesson.
WHY?
Because the Judicial branch does NOT legislate law.
Even a grade schooler knows that. Go ahead, look it up.
Your comment makes no sense at all.
It's ok to be pro choice Jeff, but really, you should also be strongly
Federally financed pro abortion. Your Federal tax dollars go to pay for the lifetime
care of unwanted, unproductive, "citizens".
And Jeff, "illegals" should especially be allowed Federally
funded abortions, on demand, because they are much more likely
to use taxpayer dollars than to actually pay taxes.
Any good conservative knows this, and should support abortion.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 10, 2009 - 02:25pm PT
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But, you need a civics lesson, the Judaical branch does not write, sign or fund bills.
So! The truth comes out! But shouldn't it be Judaic?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 03:15pm PT
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Conservatives and I agree, gays should not have abortions.
This is against God's law. Go ahead, you can look it up.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
A survey where 68% preferred this Fuca over others
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Sep 10, 2009 - 03:23pm PT
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I'm surprised the Republicans aren't in favor of real death panels. If Rove and Cheney were "reforming" healthcare I'm sure they would.
Only the poorest grandmas and grandpas would be eliminated, and this would surely reduce the Democratic voter base. Huge savings to Social Security could be realized, leaving more to spend on F-22s.
Then the Republicans could go after the food stamp program and say they're doing it to "help the poor help themselves"--by requiring death panels convert their end product into edible green wafers.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 03:29pm PT
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Senior citizens are socialists. They get SS and Medicare.
The Disabled are socialists, they get a government check.
All Federal employees are socialists, they get a government check.
Teachers, law enforcement officers, and Firemen are socialists.
Any one who is not self employed is a socialist, maybe a communist.
Joe McCarthy was a socialist.
Ronald Reagan was head of a union, therefore he was a socialist.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 03:39pm PT
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I'm a socialist.
My wife is a communist.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Sep 10, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
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Norton,
Any experienced lawyer will tell you that all three branches of government engage in legislative action. Courts make laws all the time. So do bureaucrats. The legislature is simply the only branch of the federal government that both makes laws and stands for election. (Well, OK, so does the president, but even the president has little control over the civil-service-protected bureaucrats who more directly control so much of our lives.)
John
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Sep 10, 2009 - 04:39pm PT
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Concerning the dire health of HB 3400
"I've just learned about the illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial."
Irvin S. Cobb
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it."
Mark Twain
Fine words! I wonder where you stole them."
Jonathan Swift
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Sep 10, 2009 - 04:46pm PT
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Death panels already exist.
Insurance companies already have committees that decide what treatments to approve.
What's in the bill is so much more benign than that, it doesn't even deserve mention in the same post.
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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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Sep 10, 2009 - 04:58pm PT
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Apparently, Joe Wilson is a Socialist too. Wilson "has enjoyed multiple generations of free military medical coverage, known as TRICARE."
From this Newsweek post.
I'm tired of people with full coverage, many of whom have it paid for by taxpayers, trying to destroy everyone else's opportunity for affordable health care.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 10, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
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Tricare isn't an anymore "free" healthcare than a package paid for by an employer.
Just part of an employment benefits package.
No different.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 05:17pm PT
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Why does my goddamn back hurt all the time?
I'm tired of constantly taking oxycodone.
Enough with the new kinder, gentler, Norton.
Bipartisan my ass.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 10, 2009 - 05:18pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 10, 2009 - 05:19pm PT
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It's ok to be pro choice Jeff, but really, you should also be strongly
Federally financed pro abortion. Your Federal tax dollars go to pay for the lifetime
care of unwanted, unproductive, "citizens".
And Jeff, "illegals" should especially be allowed Federally
funded abortions, on demand, because they are much more likely
to use taxpayer dollars than to actually pay taxes.
Any good conservative knows this, and should support abortion.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 10, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Sep 10, 2009 - 06:11pm PT
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Yeah you get to ride on the back of a snowmobile with her hubby bubba,
Don't ask what you get from Rove for your lunch money.
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