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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
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Our avatars should show the %of on-topic postings we make. Right TGT?
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
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TGT: Well, actually, science is based upon undeniable proof.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
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Stewart TGT: Well, actually, science is based upon undeniable proof.
No it is not.. The truth is always deniable.
Science is based on verifiable observation.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
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Science is based on verifiable observation
That's what Einstein said to Heisenberg.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Dec 14, 2015 - 08:06pm PT
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climbski2 & Lorenzo - got me. Who was it who said words to the effect that those who claim to understand quantum physics... don't?
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Dec 14, 2015 - 09:34pm PT
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TGT: actually, science has to provide verifiable results before it is considered truth which, of course, can be denied by people exactly like you.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Dec 14, 2015 - 10:21pm PT
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Human beans build bridges
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Dec 14, 2015 - 10:28pm PT
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Nah. They just serve coffee.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 14, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
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Just in, Wa Post:
The survey puts Trump’s support at 38 percent among registered Republicans and GOP-leaning independents, six points higher than in October and November. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who also is running an anti-establishment campaign, has surged into second place with 15 percent, effectively doubling his support since last month.
Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ben Carson are tied for third, with 12 percent each. Carson, who with Trump was at the top of the field earlier this fall, saw his support cut roughly in half over the past month. No other candidate in the new poll registers in double digits. Former Florida governor Jeb Bush stands at 5 percent among registered Republicans.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2015 - 05:03am PT
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TGT: Well, actually, science is based upon undeniable proof.
Ugh. Why are you going to make me say this. TGT is absolutely right.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Dec 15, 2015 - 07:48am PT
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Meanwhile, in the real world, 195 nations agree to try to do something about global warming; Repubs are strangely silent because.......?
They probably recognize the deal is a toothless beast. No need to even bring it up.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 08:05am PT
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No Edward, it's because the GOP is shamefully pandering to its flat earth constituency, eg, TGT.
History, including their grandchildren, will judge them harshly.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:35am PT
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DMT wrote:
They look like massive push-pins with really tiny pricks.
The lectern graphics, not the candidates. Ok, I meant the candidates too.
LMAO, best comment on this thread so far.
Come back Chief and Philo, come back.
And for the climate deal, shaming is all ya got?
The spice must flow.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 10:53am PT
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I know it would remove a lot of back-and-forth banter keeping this thread going, but if a defender of the CP21 Agreement could describe what happens to a signatory that fails to meet the goals specified, that would be a good start.
It would also be interesting to know what happens if any of the estimated 55 countries that need some sort of ratification fail to obtain that ratification.
My view, based on the summaries I've read, is that this looks more like belling the cat than accomplishing its goal. I've seen a lot of comparisons to Kennedy's call to land a man on the moon. Part of that comparison seems apt to me: the goal is out there. Part of that comparison doesn't fit, however: the cost of sending a man to the moon, compared with the cost of sufficient carbon reduction to reduce earth's temperature by 1.5 degrees celcius, is rather like comparing the cost of building a play house to the cost of building Versailles.
John
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2015 - 01:19pm PT
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TGT- Lettuce has no calories and nobody lives off of it. Bacon is fun to eat but has no nutritional value. That article is absurd. There is no mathematical way you can justify its conclusion without assuming some things about the world that are totally wrong like that vegetarians eat mostly lettuce or something silly.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Dec 15, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
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Bacon is fun to eat but has no nutritional value
Hidesert ur logic make no sense..
ur from the east coast claim ur a desert Dj!?!
give bacon a bad name boo on you!
please put up some profile pictures of YOU so the rest of the GOOD people can see ur not a weirdo.
you must be lost in LIBERLAND..
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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I just popped a big bowl of popcorn, and have settled in for an evening of watching the republican monkeys fling poop at each other.
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