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philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 07:58am PT
2009
Mr. Lanza graduated from high school. Some classmates said he had been bullied in high school. He struggled with a developmental disorder and was described as acutely shy, not known to have close friends.

AFTER HIGH SCHOOL
He was “completely untreated in the years before the shooting” for psychiatric and physical ailments like anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorder, a state report found.

BEFORE THE SHOOTING
His mother, Nancy Lanza, a gun enthusiast, legally obtained and registered a large collection of weapons and would often take her sons to shooting ranges.

DEC. 14, 2012
Mr. Lanza used his mother’s guns to kill her and 26 others.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:14am PT

Just November's headlines.

An Aiken County, S.C. couple who thought they were meeting with individuals whom they had arranged to purchase a car from on craigslist.com were instead met by a pair of armed robbers. While one of the robbers pointed a gun at the male victim, the female victim drew a gun and fired at the criminals, striking and killing one and causing the other to flee. (WBTV, Charlotte, N.C. 11/26/15, WRDW, Augusta, Ga. 11/26/15)


A man entered a Marathon gas station in Cincinnati, Ohio, pulled out a gun and menaced two store employees. One of the employees responded by retrieving a gun and firing at the criminal, striking him and causing him to flee. Police captured the wounded criminal nearby, and discovered that the weapon he had used inside the store was a pellet gun. (Cincinnati.com, Cincinnati, Ohio, 11/21/15, WCPO, Cincinnati, Ohio, 11/20/15)

A group of four people attempted to break into a home in San Antonio, Texas by removing an air conditioning unit from a window and crawling inside. The homeowner responded to the break-in by retrieving a gun and firing at the intruders, striking and killing one, and causing the others to flee. A knife and a bag, containing a gun and burglary tools, was found next to the body of the deceased intruder.

Police captured the three intruders who fled the gunfire a short distance from the home. (KSAT, San Antonio, Texas 11/15/15)



A homeowner was in their house in Anchorage, Alaska when they heard a knock at the door. The homeowner retrieved a gun and went to answer the door. Upon opening the door, an intruder pepper-sprayed the homeowner, prompting the homeowner to fire at the criminal. The attacker fled the scene. (KTVA, Anchorage, Alaska 11/13/15)

88-year-old Arlene Orms was at home alone in Miami, Fla. when an intruder kicked in her door. Orms responded by retrieving a .25-caliber pistol and firing at the home invader, prompting the criminal to flee.

Following the incident, Orms’ neighbors expressed support for her actions, with one telling a local media outlet, “You have to do something… You have to protect yourself.” (WSVN, Miami, Fla. 11/11/15)

Three masked robbers entered Long Jewelers in Winston-Salem, N.C., drew guns, and began smashing display cases and collecting jewelry. A worker in the back of the store became aware of the robbery and retrieved a firearm. The worker came to the front of the store and then fired at one of the thieves, striking and killing him. The other two robbers fled the scene.

Forsyth County District Attorney Jim O’Neill has made clear that the worker will not face charges. (The Winston-Salem Journal, Winston-Salem, N.C. 11/3/15)

A trio of men, at least one of whom was armed with a gun, entered Latino’s Meat Market in Reading, Pa. and attempted to rob the store. The two employees on duty responded to the threat by retrieving guns and firing at the robbers, striking two, and causing the other to flee. The two criminals that were struck died. After a preliminary investigation, Reading police stated that the employees appear to have acted in self-defense. (WFMZ, Allentown, Pa. 11/01/15)

An elderly couple were at home Halloween night, when the doorbell rang. Prepared to hand out candy to trick-or-treaters, the wife opened the door to find four armed robbers, at least two of whom were armed with guns.

The robbers forced their way inside the home, where the husband was sitting in a recliner. Upon learning of the home invasion, the husband retrieved a gun and fired at the criminals, prompting the home invaders to flee. (Helena-Arkansas.com, Helena, Ark. 11/01/15)
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:16am PT
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 08:16am PT
AUG. 5, 2012
Wade M. Page, 40, killed six people with a Springfield Armory semiautomatic handgun when he opened fire in the lobby of a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., as congregants arrived for Sunday services.

1994
While in the Army at Fort Bliss in El Paso, Tex., Mr. Page was charged with criminal mischief after kicking holes in the wall of a bar. He pleaded guilty.

EARLY 2000S
He came to the attention of authorities because of his affiliation with a white-power band called End Apathy, which performed songs with violent lyrics.

JULY 2012
He bought the firearm legally at a gun shop outside Milwaukee. He passed a background check and paid $650 in cash.

AUG. 5, 2012
He killed six people and wounded three others at the temple.
Fish Finder

climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:20am PT
philo polease ^^^^^^^

that is your weekest argument yet


the guy kicked holes in the wall at a bar and sang songs with evil lyrics?

how the hell does that profile him as a Killer

edit: or send up any warning signals , so that he cant buy a gun in our country

philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 08:21am PT
MARCH 2012**
Over four months, Mr. Holmes legally bought more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition for handguns, 3,000 rounds for a semiautomatic rifle and 350 shells for a 12-gauge shotgun, all over the Internet.
**
MAY 2012
He was seeing a psychiatrist and in the process of withdrawing from a graduate program at the University of Colorado Denver’s Anschutz Medical Campus.

MAY 2012
In the 60 days before the shooting, he bought four guns legally at local gun shops. Seeing a psychiatrist, even for a serious mental illness, would not disqualify him from buying a gun.

JULY 20, 2012
He opened fire in the theater, killing 12 people.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:23am PT



HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:25am PT
madbolter posted
And what's your account of the suicide rate in (as we recently saw poignantly played out) ENTIRELY gun-free France, which beats our suicide rate?

I forgot to mention that France also has a homicide rate that is 1/5th of what the United States' is.


Chief: Why would we make a big deal about a literally everyday event in America? We've already decided as a country that this is life as usual.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 08:26am PT
APRIL 2, 2012
One L. Goh, 43, opened fire with a semiautomatic handgun at a small religious college in Oakland, Calif., where he had been a student. He killed seven people.

BEFORE SHOOTING
“He was a loner and what some might call a loser, but he didn't exhibit any behaviors that would have alerted anyone,” a district attorney told reporters after the shooting, according to CNN.

EARLY 2012
Mr. Goh legally bought the handgun at a gun store in Castro Valley, Calif., passing a federal background check.APRIL 2, 2012
One L. Goh, 43, opened fire with a semiautomatic handgun at a small religious college in Oakland, Calif., where he had been a student. He killed seven people.

BEFORE SHOOTING
“He was a loner and what some might call a loser, but he didn't exhibit any behaviors that would have alerted anyone,” a district attorney told reporters after the shooting, according to CNN.

EARLY 2012
Mr. Goh legally bought the handgun at a gun store in Castro Valley, Calif., passing a federal background check.

APRIL 2, 2012
He killed seven people at Oikos University in Oakland.

JAN. 2013
A judge ruled he was not fit for trial after two psychiatric evaluations concluded that he had paranoid schizophrenia.

APRIL 2, 2012
He killed seven people at Oikos University in Oakland.

JAN. 2013
A judge ruled he was not fit for trial after two psychiatric evaluations concluded that he had paranoid schizophrenia.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:27am PT
^^^^^ ALL the weapons and bombs used in the FRANCE ATTACKED were BANNED and totally ILLEGAL to obtain and possess!





82% of Gangland Shootings, over 18,000, in the past 20 years, were done with NO BACKGROUND Checks all because the guns utilized were ILLEGALLY ACQUIRED!!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:29am PT
First of all, Chief, post a citation if you want us to take that seriously. Secondly, it's easy to illegally acquire a gun in a country where it's easy to legally acquire a gun.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 08:32am PT
^^^+1000


JAN. 8, 2011
Jared L. Loughner, 22, killed six people with a Glock handgun in a supermarket parking lot in Tucson, Ariz., at an event for Gabrielle Giffords, who was a Democratic representative from Arizona.

2007
Mr. Loughner was arrested for possession of drug paraphernalia, but the charges were dropped. The next year, he failed a drug test when trying to enlist in the Army. Neither incident barred him from buying a gun.

OCT. 2010
He was forced to withdraw from community college because of campus officials’ fears about the safety of the staff and students, his parents later said. The incident would not have shown up on a background check.

NOV. 30, 2010
He passed a background check and bought the handgun at a store in Tucson, Ariz.

JAN. 8, 2011
He killed six people in Tucson.
raymond phule

climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:50am PT
I believe that it possibly to get a gun in all countries but that it is easier to go to a store and buy one if that is allowed in your country or to get one illegally if a lot of people own guns legally.

I am sure that this make sense for most people outside USA and for most non gun nuts in USA.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 6, 2015 - 08:51am PT
Time to ban exacto knives.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/05/woman-stabbed-at-art-basel-as-witnesses-believe-attack-is-performance-art-routine/
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 08:52am PT
^^^ Got false equivalency syndrome TeaGEE Tea?



Jiverly Wong, 41, fired at least 98 shots from two handguns, a Beretta 92 FS 9-millimeter pistol and a Beretta PX4 Storm pistol, inside a civic association in Binghamton, N.Y., where he had taken an English class. He killed 13 former classmates and association employees.

BEFORE THE SHOOTING
Mr. Wong had been arrested, cited or had some minor contact with the police at least five times since 1990, but details about the cases remain unclear. At the time of the shootings, he was not a subject in any investigation, nor did he have a documented mental health issue.

MARCH 2008
Mr. Wong bought the first gun, the Beretta 92, at a store in Johnson City, N.Y. He passed a background check.

M ARCH 2009
Mr. Wong bought the second gun from the same store, but his background check was not approved immediately. He received the gun under a federal rule that allows a gun to be sold if the background check system does not return a decision in three business days.

APRIL 3, 2009
He killed 13 people in Binghamton.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2015 - 09:01am PT
Gunz iz secksie








































jonnyrig

climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 09:05am PT
Seriously, stop with the selfies, ok?
jonnyrig

climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 09:11am PT
How many people died from guns in the US last year? What's the average annual number for the US over the last few years? Total number? Overall? Murders and suicides? Just murders?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 6, 2015 - 09:25am PT
Face the facts; homo sapiens are a violent species.

Guns are not the problem, just a symptom.

If guns aren't available other weapons are used. How many vehicular mass homicides occur annually.

How many victims are stabbed or hacked to death on an annual basis. If you add in the squabble between Hutu's and Tutsi's in Rwanda and Congo (a million by some accounts) you get an annualized number probably exceeding gun murders.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 6, 2015 - 09:36am PT

If guns aren't available other weapons are used. How many vehicular mass homicides occur annually.

There are some decent arguments that some have made against imposing additional restrictions on gun ownership.

But the "people will always find some way to kill each other" argument is perhaps the most dishonest.
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